[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Telrex wrote:

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Destructodave wrote:

Anyways, I have access to a drillneck, but it just doesnt seem as good as chain. I mean, I almost feel compelled to use it because its there, but when testing it on maps, while it makes my tooltip dps go up 2k, just using pierce leaves stragglers where chain'd Ice Shot destroys the entire screen and then some.

I'm pretty torn. I mean its a free, end-game quiver sitting there with 2k more tooltip DPS, but it just feels worse then chaining the entire map down seemingly faster.

I dunno, I have to decide soon so my buddy can trade it if I dont use it. It obviously makes me do a ton more dmg, but takes more shots and positioning whatever then just blindly mowing down the entire map with Chain.

There's more to the game than just maximizing tooltip DPS. If you clear faster with Chain than use Chain. Plus it lets you use some great rare quivers.

Well, I mean its pretty close. Chain is far easier to clear, and seems just easier and faster to clear by a small bit. Its also easier on me resist and build wise. I mean I'm not specc'd into the pierce talent for more dmg with drillneck, but its not the damage. Hell, if I crit the entire screen blows up anyways. Its more just the noticeable stragglers that are left where chain seems to take care of those guys usually.

Its hard not ot use it. The clear speed seems relatively close. The mana is easier with drillneck, but my gearing is far harder because of using rats nest/atziri/drillneck leaves me looking hard for resists and stats.

I'm gonna play with it a bit more before I decide. I dont want to hold onto it forever; we pretty much just give each other gear for our champs if we are going to use it. If I'm not gonna use it, I need to just let him have it back and trade it.

Can you show your equips for this build right now? Most of the gear in the OP are outdated, like 3 auras linked to reduced mana, which obviously won't work anymore. Also, just a suggestion, you should have a section listing all the skill gems required/recommended for this build. I know you listed out some combinations but it's pretty hard to read that section, and they only cover attacks, auras and curses. Maybe a small section to link all the gems (ie, the gem images) would be nice. That way we can plan our sockets and links.

Can you update the gear, to show your single target frenzy links, and your 5/6link Tornado shot links, Im struggling atm.

What's the generally better choice between Puncture, Puncture Trap and Frenzy for the single target option?

I don't see many people running straight Puncture for some reason, with a split between Puncture Trap and Frenzy, but I can't seem to find any real explanation why they pick one over the other options.

Could use some some advice. I have a Drillneck but not sure if it's worth it since I don't use Pierce on my TS. Also not sure what to upgrade next. Thinking of selling Drillneck to buy a Rat's Nest. Thoughts?

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Yazstromo wrote:

What's the generally better choice between Puncture, Puncture Trap and Frenzy for the single target option?

I don't see many people running straight Puncture for some reason, with a split between Puncture Trap and Frenzy, but I can't seem to find any real explanation why they pick one over the other options.

I am not a veteran, but here is my two cents.

it depends on your gears, and whether or not you have a 6L.

if you are using chin sol, go for trap. and it is better you have a 6L, cause the trap support will use 1 slot. this is because chin sol boost 100% point blank damage to puncture.
otherwise, don't use trap.

for frenzy vs puncture, I think it is about play style.
if you choose frenzy, you will always have max frenzy orb and you need to keep shooting frenzy at your target. for puncture, it is best if you have high attack speed and crit chance, so that you could keep knocking back(TS) or freeze(IS) your target while it bleed.

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benjiwoosh wrote:

Hey, been following your build but died to merc brutus with fire storm, had like 2.8k hp and he pretty much 1-shot me through acro. I know, should have had skele totem with blind equipped but I just dont feel acro is safe enough for hardcore leagues due to how random it is.
So question - since we're not using arrow dodging, do you think that iron reflexes could be used instead acro? Perhaps even paired with grace+arctic armor instead of hatred/herald for harder bosses? The damage felt okay (and would probably be even better later on, with a proper bow) but I felt wayy too squishy to play comfortably on HC.

wanna know what do you mean by skele totem with blind?
do you mean summon skele + spell totem + blind? what does this do? the skele have a 10% chance blind on hit? doesn't sound good enough to use it.

Still dunno what should i choose...
Got both SA and TS with 20/20 gems and can't decide XD
TS looks better overall, but SA seems to be MONSTER for group clearing and clearing speed, but lil bit harder at boss fights...

And what bout jewels? What are best ones for this build?
+dmg+life+crit?

Need some advice on how to progress my gear from here. This is what I have atm



I've been soloing maps up to 75 and it feels like at this point, some things are getting pretty tough to kill. I want to upgrade my bow but the jump from this one which cost me 3c to a 5/6L harbinger is pretty steep. This is my first character so I'm pretty poor.

Is it worth it for me to try and craft one myself and try to get 5L on it? I occasionally find some ilvl 77 harbingers while mapping but it seems like everyone is now looking to craft on ilvl 83+ bows instead. From what I gather, to even get a 5L requires a fair bit of currency so I don't really want to waste a ton on something that isn't going to be truly endgame. Any ideas?

How do you people feel about using Increased Critical Damage + Added Fire over Physical to Light + Weapon Elemental Damage? I took the Vitality Void cluster and also have .4% leech on my quiver. With former setup, I notice that my leech is much better. Most likely because a percentage of all my physical damage is being leeched, versus half for the latter. Though, the phys to light + WED combo gives higher dps, but only by about 2k.