[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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kramurz wrote:

Hello!

First of all thank you for making this guide. Im using it in Beyond and i really like it thus far.
I have question. Do you think Lightning Coil is an absolute necessity to counter reflect mobs? Because i just bought an Queen of the Forest but a friend of mine says that i will guaranteed die to reflect with it and should buy a coil.

Greetings Rob aka Kramurz

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And using assasin's mark instead of power charge on critical on tornado shot, I was thinking the cast time to be too much of a hassle to keep up with every pack of trash mobs.

A few more levels and I'll try normal Atziri for the first time ever.

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Y0UR wrote:

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kramurz wrote:

Hello!

First of all thank you for making this guide. Im using it in Beyond and i really like it thus far.
I have question. Do you think Lightning Coil is an absolute necessity to counter reflect mobs? Because i just bought an Queen of the Forest but a friend of mine says that i will guaranteed die to reflect with it and should buy a coil.

Greetings Rob aka Kramurz

Lightning coil helps, but I don't think it helps too much. I've updated the guide with some advice with how to deal with reflect, maybe those pointers might help.

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And using assasin's mark instead of power charge on critical on tornado shot, I was thinking the cast time to be too much of a hassle to keep up with every pack of trash mobs.

A few more levels and I'll try normal Atziri for the first time ever.

That a solid option too, but I don't usually bother with cursing normal trash anyway (depends on the mood, yes not a very solid answer, I know), against bosses the more-damage multiplier is very welcome though,

Good luck with Atziri, I believe in you :P

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Also, look guys, I'm an artist now! :O
(just updated the guide, added a few sections and corrected others)

Skilltree, Image edition, click to enlarge:



If anyone sees any mistakes, please inform me

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Y0UR wrote:

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What is the optimal level for CWDT+IC+ID+EC combo? I currently run a level 4 CWDT but I dont know how high I should be leveling it, currently sitting at 3,6k life, what level do you guys have on your CWDT?

There are breakpoints. I recommend anything between level 4 or 10. The goal is to be able to put attacks in between. I might add a small section in the calculator

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teoiliev wrote:

anyone playing beyond with this build ?

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j0zef wrote:

Not sure if you want to add it to the guide as an alternative, but I found linking CoH+assassin's mark to TS to be extremely effective for clear speed. You obviously wont see the effects in tooltip DPS, but it's amazing when mapping solo or with a few people.

Links: TS+PPAD+ICD+GMP+CoH+A.Mark

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xythian wrote:

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j0zef wrote:

Not sure if you want to add it to the guide as an alternative, but I found linking CoH+assassin's mark to TS to be extremely effective for clear speed. You obviously wont see the effects in tooltip DPS, but it's amazing when mapping solo or with a few people.

Links: TS+PPAD+ICD+GMP+CoH+A.Mark

I've been experimenting with a separate 4L with TS+GMP+CoH+A.Mark for cursing and Power Charge generation and have enjoyed the results so far. The CoH TS does ~1/3 the dmg of my primary 5L TS which is still enough to 1 shot the trashiest of trash, but leaves the heavier trash and above with curses. Follow up with your normal TS and reap the rewards. It's also nice to be able to knockback and leech when you 'curse' rather than just cursing.