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indirect wrote:
Hey guys, with this build...



Is

or


more apt? With the Harbinger I lose 1k DPS for both Puncture and Tornado Shot, but I gain ~73 Increased Crit, and the chance to evade reflect.

So is the 1k DPS loss worth it?


I'd say take the Harbinger. 1k dps loss isn't all that much, plus, that is just tooltip dps. Because of your higher crit chance, when using the phys-to-lightning gem, you'll shock enemies more often thus dealing more damage. So in reality you may have actually gained some dps. Just see how it plays in game. When your kill speed is still very good, I'd stick with the Harbinger.

P.s. Next time, try to get a Harbinger without the elemental damage, and with higher phys damage. That will give you a better damage boost.

Cheers
What do you think about taking out PPAD and itroducing PPOC? (without having killed Oak on Merc)

We're talking about a toon with 45% Chance and 564% Multiplier.
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Last edited by scabre89#2204 on May 1, 2015, 10:18:26 AM
You will lose a bit of dps (28->26.9k dps in my case, with 5 power charges, so you will lose more). PCoC is on par with increase crit multi, increase crit chance, etc. But PCoC has its onw pros, namely higher crit chance, so more status ailment and faster flask recharge. I use it myself in my AOE setup (either Split or TS).

And you can always try yourself if you have a tabula rasa (a mandatory item for any player imho, it's so useful to try stuff).

As for your damage issue, it's probably that your bow is too low. If you want a cheap upgrade, look for a Lioneye's Glare which does quite well in a crit build. But you may have a hard time with reflect then.
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Sorry I couldn't link it before, there were some issues with my armory. I'm using this since lv 50 I think, and sadly couldn' come up with a replacement since.



My other DPS giving gear is:

Spoiler
Wich I know they don't have the best roll, but whatevs
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Could you link your body armor too ? your TS setup is there.

The bow is decent but it's time to upgrade it. The rest of your linked gear is more than ok.
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Wow, I just realized I had
on one of my old characters. I started playing again a week ago. I must have thought it was a shitty levelling unique, hah.
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Panini_aux_olives wrote:
Could you link your body armor too ? your TS setup is there.

The bow is decent but it's time to upgrade it. The rest of your linked gear is more than ok.


Indeed, my bad. Still have to finish leveling these.

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@Mindlapse: you have to dodge every flameblast. That's intended. How can you expect an archer to tank her mindlessly?
It used to be much easier in 1.2, with the old puncture. I did a few deathless runs back then. I did one in 1.3 and died too. I didn't bother much doing her after that.

your gear: it's fine, mostly (I'd try to get a huge str roll on belt to save one passive).
your tree: do you take survivalist to cover ele weakness? if not, refund for depth perception. More crit is always welcomed and I suspect you to lack of a bit of accuracy. Also I don't like piercing shot that much. It costs you 4 points for 16-18% increase projectile damage. I also don't think the added pierce chance is worth such a cost. If you want damage, just take master fletcher, but I'd rather go with crit nodes, especially the missing nodes in Lethality cluster. Higher crit chance is especially important for you if you specifically target Atziri, because it will make crit puncture easier to achieve.

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scabre89 wrote:
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Panini_aux_olives wrote:
Could you link your body armor too ? your TS setup is there.

The bow is decent but it's time to upgrade it. The rest of your linked gear is more than ok.


Indeed, my bad. Still have to finish leveling these.

Because of your bow, you don't have much crit chance yet. Added fire damage may be a better support, in addition to split damage between phys and elemental, which make reflect easier to manage. Try it on tabula rasa if you have one. But even though it would just be a minor upgrade. What you really need is a better bow.
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Last edited by Panini_aux_olives#1967 on May 1, 2015, 9:20:18 PM
Luckily I upgraded my bow to


So, I guess I'll just try to gather currency to 6L a similar chest I got on my stash (easier said than done), to integrate the Added Fire Damage to the mix.
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Mindlapse wrote:
~17k+ TS dps
50% EV
45% dodge
4k hp
Over Capped resist (~95% resist all after merciless penalty)

Please check my ranger profile for gear

Still find it super hard to do atziri without dodging every single flameblast. If I ruby flask I survive with like 10-20% HP and if I don't I die. So the fight takes forever and die a lot if I don't have absolutely 100% movement play mechanics and worse if there's desync.

The upside is that the spears literally cannot land on me due to evade and dodge

And this is just non uber atziri. Not sure if this is the best endgame build for standard since 99.99% of drops in maps aren't sellable so atziri is the only reliable way to farm wealth endgame outside of trading/flipping items. Dominus farming in a group with a culler is 100x more efficient than mapping (especially because you need to spend currency to chisel and roll high lvl maps or risk shrinking your high 70s map pool)

Seems like it would have been better if I just made an atziri specific build that can facetank any flameblast and not have to stop DPS. Even budget SRS build will do it more consistently.

But maybe I'm doing something wrong? Please check my profile for paasives+gear. And yes I can play better and not get flameblasted but that is not the point. The point is that if I HAVE to have 100% perfect play to not die and any mistake will cause death, then it is a very poor build for long term atziri farming, which I hope isn't the case because I spent all of my currency on the build.


I'm sorry if I'm ruining your expectations, but 99% of all builds, with the sole exception of full mirror-level gear builds can't facetank uber atziri. And if you want to farm uber-atziri, you better get good at the normal fight, since you need to dodge. Everything. It's not supposed to be a faceroll encounter.

This build wins at Atziri by providing high DPS, high mobility and a good amount of dodge and spell dodge. You are practically immune to her spears. You can also use vaal grace and rumi's (at uber) to have good cards if you still mess up. You still need to be a good player.

Also you can survive her attacks.

It takes 4.4k HP to survive any of her attacks on normal (except 2x flameblast)
It takes around 6k HP to survive any of her attacks on uber. You also need overcapped resistances, since she penetrates some of them.

Also there's spell dodge, rumis and vaal grace.

Finally at what point did you read that this character is a dedicated Atziri farmer? You only got yourself to blame, if you think Atziri is supposed to be a tank&spank encounter.
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Last edited by NeverSink#3349 on May 2, 2015, 3:52:15 AM

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