Just saying

Usually, all I see are complaints about GGG not doing this or that about the PvP, and neglecting updates or whatever.

I'm not disagreeing that the PvP updates should come out ASAP since that's one of the biggest flaws in the game, such as the balance.

However, you guys just complaining your ass off on forums won't really accomplish much.

If you guys are actually dedicated to making a change in the PvP scene, how about organizing a tournament yourselves amongst the PvPers that you know.

I literally see little to no effort being made about actually taking action to deal with the PvP balances other than complaining on forums.

I actually tried to get something going by making a thread and legit websites that was specifically made for PvPers but none of you made an effort to give me feedback or even use it.

If you find something to be extremely unbalanced and the others also agree, then how about setting a rule against it, such as a skill or item.

There's so much that could be done about the PvP scene instead of complaining.

Just saying.

Also, I understand that there are certain limitations that we can't solve no matter how inventive we are, such as a FFA, but I'm sure if some of you guys were able to organize legit team based 3v3 CTF or whatever, you guys would be much much happier.

Man, we have been organizing tons of 3v3s everyday for like 2 months straight non stop in merciless are i have never seen you once. You need to specify to who you are talking to dude, are you saying that towards low lvl pvpers or everyone in general ? we are all taking breaks at the moment because everyone is a bit tired if you can understand. There's no point investing our time playing the current pvp queue system we pretty much all got bored of it. The threads we do may seem like complains and i dont disagree that we are tired and we need changes which is why they may sound a bit sketchy and i'mma try to change mine myself. I agree that more people should give their ideas in the feedback forum so GGG can see everyone's ideas.

I don't get it. You're singling out the community for complaining in a rant of your own. How is that any more constructive?

I had tried to get you involved in lld 3v3's for a number of months awhile back and I barely ever got a response from you, and when you did come out you were often afk.

Regarding the website you created... a number of people gave feedback on different routes to take in organizing pvp events. Many people thought your concept could have been optimized a little better.

Shortly afterwards you gave up on the website and your attendance in the pvp community has been spotty at best. I don't think it's fair to blame others for you not getting your idea off the ground in the vision you specifically wanted.

Sorry if that came across as harsh, but I don't think your assessment of the pvp community was particularly fair.

Pretty much what firebrand just said, i never seen you once in the pvps and never heard about you ? You need to clear out where's your bullet is aimed at LePvPmaster

Edit: I myself created a thread just a few days ago and i think i gave a pretty good sight of view of how i think of how pvp system should work a bit, i'll try to clean it up so it doesn't sound like a complain...

pretty sure we tried doing that and it didn't go anywhere.

I was just saying this to the general audience that are involved in PvP, and this applies to me as well.

Also, concerning what you said about me not doing anything on the thread. As of right now, it's true that I'm not doing anything much, but at the same time, I'm not putting up complaints such as the new PvP system.

A lot of the stuff that people complain about are regurgitated constantly.

And a few months back, the reason I wasn't really active was because I was more into League of Legends and I'm pretty sure it was also because I wanted to start fresh and wait for open beta to be released.

And the comment about the site, I received criticism about the PvP ladder system/tournament rules that I had set-up, but not for the actual website. Furthermore, the criticism I received about the tourney stuff, I tried to explain my reason behind it, but none of you guys really followed up on it.

Anyways, if this thread offends too many people, I'm more than happy to just clear it :D

Yeah i think the more we make threads about what should change is the way to get things fixed for pvp future, if we keep our mouth shut nothing's gonna happen. We're the ones dedicated to pvp and i dont think anyone else can describe PvP better than us at the moment since we play it all the time.

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hauntworld1 wrote:

Yeah i think the more we make threads about what should change is the way to get things fixed for pvp future, if we keep our mouth shut nothing's gonna happen. We're the ones dedicated to pvp and i dont think anyone else can describe PvP better than us at the moment since we play it all the time.

I'm not saying we should keep our mouths shut, but by now, I'm pretty sure GGG has either given us feedback or has already read what it is what we want, and we can see that by looking at how the staff has replied to some of the threads.

I just feel like that some of the stuff that is being brought up is being regurgitated unnecessarily, but that's my opinion.