The new "imbued supports" and Vaal Gems

I don't know if they talked about this, but when imbuing your skill gem with those new support gem currencies that corrupts the gem, imbuing it with a suitable support, I assume it can turn into a Vaal version too?

No the new coin's only imbue the level 20 skill gem with a usable STR, DEX or INT support effect (AKA level 1 support gem).

Mark mentioned this in the ZiggyD Q and A saying the coin's were at odd's with vaal orb outcomes.
It was a little confusing language for me... he said it at 53:30 if you wanna hear and interpret his words for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBv6SfYnNSg&t=6017s

Giving the item description, no, as the item does not modify the gems in an unpredictable way like a Vaal Orb would.
It works the same as the old Einhar 30% quality craft and simply places the item into a corrupted state while adding a random level 1 support effect.

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WARPAINTER#1787 wrote:

No the new coin's only imbue the level 20 skill gem with a usable STR, DEX or INT support effect (AKA level 1 support gem).

Mark mentioned this in the ZiggyD Q and A saying the coin's were at odd's with vaal orb outcomes.
It was a little confusing language for me... he said it at 53:30 if you wanna hear and interpret his words for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBv6SfYnNSg&t=6017s

I interpreted this as "you can no longer get 21/23", not that it could get turned into the Vaal version of the gem. I was wrong, apparently.

I like it, it forces you to choose, even though I think most people would choose the new option for their main damage skill.

Need info if the lvl 1 add the mana multiplier or not.
cause the cost can be skyrocket.

WTF would anybody ever want to cram a level *ONE* support gem onto their gems is absolutely mystifying.

By the time the gem is level 20 a level 1 support would be absolutely not even noticed in any way.

At a quick glance, example gems that have relatively smaller discrepancies in power between level 1 and 20:

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Cruelty
Endurance charge on melee stun zero change dps-wise if you use endur charges
Charged traps
Efficacy
Point Blank support; don't need to travel to point blank keystone

Iron Will support
Impale support questionable but I'd take a free 60% impale chance
Rage support; easy 3 rage on hit
Combustion support
Increased crit damage

Increased crit strikes
Lifetap support I'd take
Minion speed support

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Now, up to you to PoB whether some support is worthwhile. There will be the increased cost of the skill, and some builds will need vaal gem which then cannot use the new imbued feature.

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BlaqWolf#1151 wrote:

WTF would anybody ever want to cram a level *ONE* support gem onto their gems is absolutely mystifying.

By the time the gem is level 20 a level 1 support would be absolutely not even noticed in any way.

20% more damage is "not even noticed"? I think every min/maxer in the history of PoE would disagree with you. A level 1 support usually have more than half the damage that a level 20 has.

That's like saying "I would rather just run a 5-linked setup than to add a level 1 support gem".