new Breachlord bloodline notable Cryogenesis question.

hello,

I have a question about the new ascendency notable:
As mentionned in the patchnote :
"The Otherworldly Appendages notable on the Breachlord Bloodline has been renamed to Cryogenesis and now grants:
If Intelligence is your single highest Attribute, all added Damage is treated as added Lighting Damage"

Does this work with damage added "as extra" from Herald of ash, or only flat damage that could come from added cold damage support for instance?

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HerbieFr#6194 wrote:

Does this work with damage added "as extra" from Herald of ash, or only flat damage that could come from added cold damage support for instance?

Probably not. "Added damage" usually only refers to flat added damage from supports, equipment and the passive tree.

Edit:

Ok, so apparently ben thinks % as extra also counts as added damage:

https://youtu.be/o49BYMRTFb4?t=1304

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twostroketom#5281 wrote:

Ok, so apparently ben thinks % as extra also counts as added damage:

https://youtu.be/o49BYMRTFb4?t=1304

That is how the conversion matrix works.

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twostroketom#5281 wrote:

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HerbieFr#6194 wrote:

Does this work with damage added "as extra" from Herald of ash, or only flat damage that could come from added cold damage support for instance?

Probably not. "Added damage" usually only refers to flat added damage from supports, equipment and the passive tree.

Edit:

Ok, so apparently ben thinks % as extra also counts as added damage:

https://youtu.be/o49BYMRTFb4?t=1304

No, you're right. Gain as extra damage is not added damage.

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does this mean archmage will add cold damage if cold version is used?

This ones got a great deal of potential to work in a variety of ways, I personally can't see it working on damage as extra or I think it would be phrased differently but we are going to have to wait for them to ask at the QA session to get a good read.

Like lets say it works on damage as extra for a minute that means they've been able to do full damage conversion to any type all along despite it having an engine sequence for the calculations. If that were true I can't see them sitting on it for this long before adding an item/skill etc that did full conversion to something out of order.

Its messy to guess. Gut feeling is its going to work on gear/buffs but not skill sources but that is based on nothing!

I was thinking "Elemental Hit" the moment I saw this node. But I'm too hyped for this league to really wrap my brain around how it would work with EH.

Octavian confirmed in the Ziz interview that "% damage gained as extra" is NOT considered added damage in the context of the new bloodline ascendancy.

But he also confirmed that, yes, Ele Hit will work and yes it will be absolutely busted :)

The discussion starts around 40:00

https://youtu.be/1vRHUP9P6tI?t=2382

aaaand it's gone again...

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1ri70ok/comment/o86lvm5/

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Hey everyone! Andrew has asked me to pass on the following message:

After much internal discussion we are preventing the new Cryogenesis Breachlord Bloodline notable from interacting with Elemental Hit. I regret categorically stating it would not be changed on Ziz's podcast, so apologies to any Elemental Hit enjoyers for getting your hopes up.

Edit - Elemental hit, not just Melee Elemental Hit