Keepers , Review ish + rant on kingsmarch

Just finished this league and the 36 challanges and i think it was pretty good

the new updated breach felt nice and spicy enough to keep it fun through the whole campaigne and into red maps

i cant say i enjoyed the defend Ailith events on the ground as much , so i would lik to see this not make a return

hte hive fortress event feels more fun even if its basically the same
i would like it to return as its own map maybe in future leagues with its own boss , wich could be the whay you find hte hive glands to fight the new breachlord bosses
i would like it to be a bit more fleshed out and not just the defend minigame as it is now

The Genesis tree was fun at first
but when you drop a natural 6 link on the ground and its not even worth the fusings you get for selling it , thats just sad
i wouldnt mind having the tree back in future leagues , but i think it needs to be less of what it is
i thought about maybe having the wombgifts be more specific, maybe you find a linked provisional wombgift that will garantue a fully linked item but still it might just be a gloves
in all honesty, its a bit to easy to get 6 links nowdays, its not something you feel good about achiewing

Foulborn uniques was great and i really hope they stay in the game and that more will be added
if the tree is gone then maybe have the hive fortress event offer you an altar where you can take a unique item and if it has a foulborn version , it will change 1 mod ( maybe have the 2 mod be locked behind the new bosses or uber versions of those bosses)
if the item cant be foulborn or if you choose it as an option, you could destroy the itme for a bunch of foulborn currancy and grafts




on another note regarding kingsmarch
i feel its making the game feel less like a game and more like work
as one who cant blast the game 12 hours everyday kingsmarch feels like i have to use it to be able to collect currancy, contantly keeping watch on how long until my boats return so i can send them back out
wich forces me to have kalgur Ore on every atlas passive tree i use

i really want kingsmarch to be removed or atleast reworked to not be this mobile game mechanic


thats my thoughts , overall i enjoyed this league
Last bumped on Dec 6, 2025, 3:45:52 PM
+1 for deleting kingsmarch (i.e. diablo immortal gameplay)
i also dislike the existence of farming/shipping part of kingsmarch
POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
I petition to return all the fun stuff that was removed or nerfed over the years back into POE1.
Okay so, i agree with some of what was said here, though i must add, i don't understand the hate of kingsmarch, you don't have to spend every atlas tree on it, just heavy duty specialize 1 tree and run that a few times with added scarabs.
Furthermore i have another concern with this league... it feels incomplete, the storyline just hints at more and i believe the boss fight against tul and esh is kinda... mid... i wished to explore the dreamer storyline more.

Big enjoyer of this league so far thought it couldhave been more, the devs are amazing for creating this.
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Okay so, i agree with some of what was said here, though i must add, i don't understand the hate of kingsmarch, you don't have to spend every atlas tree on it, just heavy duty specialize 1 tree and run that a few times with added scarabs.
Furthermore i have another concern with this league... it feels incomplete, the storyline just hints at more and i believe the boss fight against tul and esh is kinda... mid... i wished to explore the dreamer storyline more.

Big enjoyer of this league so far thought it couldhave been more, the devs are amazing for creating this.


but there is more
there is a breach uber boss behind atlas tree...
POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
I petition to return all the fun stuff that was removed or nerfed over the years back into POE1.
"
Okay so, i agree with some of what was said here, though i must add, i don't understand the hate of kingsmarch, you don't have to spend every atlas tree on it, just heavy duty specialize 1 tree and run that a few times with added scarabs.
Furthermore i have another concern with this league... it feels incomplete, the storyline just hints at more and i believe the boss fight against tul and esh is kinda... mid... i wished to explore the dreamer storyline more.

Big enjoyer of this league so far thought it couldhave been more, the devs are amazing for creating this.




You miss my point with kingsmarch
Since i dont have more then about 3 hours a day to play it feels mandatory to Send 3 or more ships every day so i have stuff to collector the next day
Also to Send mappers if i have enough gold
The problem is that its basically a mobile phone game that wants to play itself but wants you to spend money to skip the time you need to wait
Ofcourse there is no way to pay to skip wich is good, Thats not what i want

Point is that i dont want to feel that im misding free divine orbs and valuable items from mappers and ships if i dont micro manage my time to include it in my time i do play
Man, that video from that guy who used to work for GGG really did a number on the community, huh? The same guy who nearly ruined the game when he dug his heels in over a shitty mechanic that subsumed every other aspect of the game. And then quit when no one played his side project.

I have never felt the need to do Kingsmarch at all. I don't even hire mappers or send out shipments with bars. It's just crops and disenchanting for me. And I think disenchanting is phenomenal; it gives terrible items and uniques more use than just vendoring them.

HOWEVER! However...

I have felt mental overhead from earlier leagues and earlier Atlases. When the Atlas was divided into four zones and you had to get 16 (!!!) Watchstones to complete your Atlas... And when every single league currency was sequestered behind each associated league mechanic... That was really rough. Similarly, the garrison in Warlords of Draenor made me quit WoW forever. And that seems like a pretty close analog to Kingsmarch in PoE. So, I understand the criticism.

I think a part of the problem is that so many other currency farming strategies were obliterated. Now Kingsmarch is one of a very few consistent methods to get decent amounts of alts, chaos and divines. If there were more viable farming strategies -- or the ones that were nerfed were un-nerfed -- I think that might ease some of the problem. Kind of like how the Atlas tree alleviated a bunch of mental overhead with the overabundance of league mechanics. That compulsion is mitigated when everything is viable.

Sorry for the dismissive opening paragraph. I do understand the feeling that aspects of the game are mandatory. But Krillson's video really sticks in my craw. And it seems to have triggered the majority of criticisms directed at Kingsmarch -- or, at least, broke the dam. Riling up players from the sidelines after he fucked up so badly feels like a bitter, cheap shot.
Last edited by GrumpyMcElbows#2847 on Dec 6, 2025, 4:05:56 PM

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