SSF and Trarthan Gems

Hi GGG.

I only play SSF and i played a lot in mercenary league and never found Bladefall of Trarthus.

You then added Trarthan gems to heists, which sounded good at first, but i've now run about 7 blueprints, with gem rooms, and have gotten 3 trarthan gems, obviously not the one i want.. (imagine how many contracts i've run, soon what feels like enough..)

I would highly suggest you make an easier process of getting these gems!
I was already a little sour in mercenary league for not getting the gem. Once again i'm stuck only thinking of the build i had planned out...

It feels demoralizing the more i play. How many more blue prints will i have to run in order to actually get to play?

I don't mind heists, but this league specifically it feels super bad, since i miss out on blood and Wombgifts and so on..

Please make it easier for SSF players to get their trarthan varient of gem, instead we are locked behind what seems like a big lotto wall..
Last edited by Ferablekeft#0586 on Nov 16, 2025, 12:01:23 PM
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Please make it easier for SSF players

GGG aren't going to make the game easier in optional challenge modes - those modes are designed to only ever increase the difficulty of the game. If a given player dislikes the inconvenience caused by challenge modes, they needn't opt-in to using them.
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Sarno#0493 wrote:
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Please make it easier for SSF players

GGG aren't going to make the game easier in optional challenge modes - those modes are designed to only ever increase the difficulty of the game. If a given player dislikes the inconvenience caused by challenge modes, they needn't opt-in to using them.


I get what you're saying, but the way you use the term easier is not sitting right with me, but i do think i understand what you're saying, just know that SSF isn't getting easier, if they added an increased drop chance, or making it so you could sell 5 Trarthan gems to get 1 random trarthan gem.
Heck they could even add that to Trade League.

Thing is Trade is so freaking easy in comparison. It's not even funny.
Locking Skill gems behind tedious lotto farms does no good for the game in my opinion.

You could argue that it does something for trade league, so that some people can make currency by selling the Trarthan gems, sure, but those gems will cost 1 chaos 1-2 weeks in.

And all it does is shitting on people in SSF, wasting our time away, trying to farm a lotto gem, from content they don't even like.

Again i see your point, GGG prob wouldn't do that, but i simply can't see the reason, for those gems to be so hard to get in general.

Whom would be hurt if people in SSF could get their gem a little faster? It still wouldn't be faster than those in trade. It doens't make sense. People in trade don't have to farm Heist if they don't like it.


/update i've prob run over 100+ contracts before i noticed Gem rooms can only spawn in Counter-Thaumaturgy or in blueprints, so after that i'm about 40+ Counter-Thaumaturgy and 16+ blueprints and have gotten a total of 14 Trarthan gems. (still havn't gotten the one i'm looking for.)
Last edited by Ferablekeft#0586 on Nov 17, 2025, 10:48:25 PM
They could probably bring back regrading lenses in blueprints. or put them in gem boxes to allow people to "ancient orb" trarthan gems.
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They could probably bring back regrading lenses in blueprints. or put them in gem boxes to allow people to "ancient orb" trarthan gems.


Yea this would help too, i'm pretty much just asking for anything. I prob wouldn't have suggested this, if they had added them to the drop pool for other league mechanics aswell. Like Blight gem chests or delirium gem rewards.
(This might be asking too much i know, i'm not even sure i like my own idea, since it's fair that some content have exclusive rewards. I too like that, it just feels soul draining.)

I saw a reddit comment claiming that logbooks could drop trarthan gems too, i had already specced up in that aswell this league, but i had only gotten 2 logbooks and no gem from that either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Last edited by Ferablekeft#0586 on Nov 18, 2025, 7:50:00 AM
Another thing i noticed this league is that there's no scarabs for Heists. I've never noticed or thought about that before, but that honestly sucks.

I know you can drop contracts as part of base drop pool, but it's pretty dang low. I could easily think up a few scarabs.

Like;
- 5-10% chance for smuggler cache to drop an additional contract. (no limit?)
- Your map have an additional smuggler cache. (limited to one)
- Map boss drops heist loot - coins, contracts or blueprints. (limited to one)

I don't see how it would make or break heist.
Last edited by Ferablekeft#0586 on Nov 18, 2025, 8:01:35 AM
you can put it on your map device and fully spec into heist and have a ton of heist mats.
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you can put it on your map device and fully spec into heist and have a ton of heist mats.


I've been doing that from the get go, and you can put every league mechanic on your map device, 'PLUS' scarabs.

Been mapping for 5-6 hours today, about 15+ maps, got 9 blueprints where only 2 of them had gem rooms, already ran them, no trarthan gem dropped.

Back to mapping i guess ^^

early on it was quite taxing on my chaos, but not so much anymore.
Last edited by Ferablekeft#0586 on Nov 18, 2025, 3:44:17 PM

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