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I have noticed that Natural Affinity small cluster jewel is not adding double damage but only slows down character ( there is no any information about double damage or increased dps ). When i right click to remobe this jewel i get message as shown in attachment. In my opinion it's a bug 'cause i get message "Are you sure you want to refund the selected subtree". I'm not refunding passive skill but trying to remove cluster jewel with right click as other jewels.
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Regards Last edited by AFMurdoc#5023 on Nov 12, 2025, 10:40:35 AM Last bumped on Nov 14, 2025, 2:38:17 AM
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Posted byAFMurdoc#5023on Nov 11, 2025, 2:22:42 PM
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When i right click to remobe this jewel i get message as shown in attachment.
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Posted bySarno#0493on Nov 11, 2025, 2:50:18 PM
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When i right click to remobe this jewel i get message as shown in attachment.
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I will paste img link when i get back home from work
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Posted byAFMurdoc#5023on Nov 12, 2025, 3:03:38 AM
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When i right click to remobe this jewel i get message as shown in attachment. In my opinion it's a bug 'cause i get message "Are you sure you want to refund the selected subtree". I'm not refunding passive skill but trying to remove cluster jewel with right click as other jewels.
Cluster jewels aren't like other jewels; they have a subtree (in the case of Natural Affinity, consisting of a single notable). To remove a cluster jewel, you must first refund the selected passives in the subtree. You can do this manually, one passive at a time, or automatically all at once when removing a cluster jewel (in this case, only one refund point is spent on the entire subtree).
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Posted byseaman#4993on Nov 12, 2025, 4:21:11 AMValued Poster
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I have noticed that Natural Affinity small cluster jewel is not adding double damage but only slows down character ( there is no any information about double damage or increased dps ).
I don't think any information about % chance to deal double damage is shown in the character sheet in the first place. I didn't see anything when I tried socketing Heavy Strike just now.
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When i right click to remobe this jewel i get message as shown in attachment. In my opinion it's a bug 'cause i get message "Are you sure you want to refund the selected subtree". I'm not refunding passive skill but trying to remove cluster jewel with right click as other jewels.
Unique Small Cluster Jewels have a subtree with a single Passive. You DO have to spend a passive to allocate Nature's Patience after socketing the jewel.
The message should be indicating that you don't have to spend refund points to unallocate Nature's Patience and unsocket the jewel, because passives on cluster jewels don't require refund points to unallocate--only the jewel sockets do, iirc.
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Posted byJadian#0111on Nov 12, 2025, 4:35:48 AM
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I have noticed that Natural Affinity small cluster jewel is not adding double damage but only slows down character ( there is no any information about double damage or increased dps ).
I don't think any information about % chance to deal double damage is shown in the character sheet in the first place. I didn't see anything when I tried socketing Heavy Strike just now.
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When i right click to remobe this jewel i get message as shown in attachment. In my opinion it's a bug 'cause i get message "Are you sure you want to refund the selected subtree". I'm not refunding passive skill but trying to remove cluster jewel with right click as other jewels.
Unique Small Cluster Jewels have a subtree with a single Passive. You DO have to spend a passive to allocate Nature's Patience after socketing the jewel.
The message should be indicating that you don't have to spend refund points to unallocate Nature's Patience and unsocket the jewel, because passives on cluster jewels don't require refund points to unallocate--only the jewel sockets do, iirc.
How can I make sure i have chance to get double dmg and if it's working ? Grasping vines are really annoying
Last edited by AFMurdoc#5023 on Nov 12, 2025, 10:57:34 AM
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Posted byAFMurdoc#5023on Nov 12, 2025, 10:41:57 AM
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How can I make sure i have chance to get double dmg and if it's working ? Grasping vines are really annoying
Allocate Resolute Technique to disable crit and EO variance.
Remove all other sources of double damage or things that can cause variance
Pick a skill that deals exact, or close to exact same minimum and maximum damage (may need to remove sources of flat to bring the numbers close together. Lightning Conduit has too wide of a range.
Find boss that can't kill you and you can move their HP.
Kill them however many times with and without the jewel socketed. If double damage is working, then you should see chunks that are twice as large.
Or just trust someone else has done the science as that jewel has been used for years now.
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Posted byblackdeath101#5742on Nov 12, 2025, 5:31:44 PM
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How can I make sure i have chance to get double dmg and if it's working ? Grasping vines are really annoying
Allocate Resolute Technique to disable crit and EO variance.
Remove all other sources of double damage or things that can cause variance
Pick a skill that deals exact, or close to exact same minimum and maximum damage (may need to remove sources of flat to bring the numbers close together. Lightning Conduit has too wide of a range.
Find boss that can't kill you and you can move their HP.
Kill them however many times with and without the jewel socketed. If double damage is working, then you should see chunks that are twice as large.
Or just trust someone else has done the science as that jewel has been used for years now.
Thnx for reply
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Posted byAFMurdoc#5023on Nov 14, 2025, 2:38:17 AM
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