Spectre didn't return after apparent death

Was running a map and I noticed I was missing my forest tiger. I completed the map and returned to my hideout and it still hadn't come back, nor was there a corpse on the ground.

I went to multiple different zones and a different map and it still hadn't returned. I hadn't swapped my weapons or any of my minion skill items, otherwise more of my spectres would be either on the ground or missing.

Very frustrating to lose 7d to nothing.

As a Corpse Item spectre, if it did die in map it is not supposed to respawn. These particular spectres are one use, even though they may be expensive to purchase in trade.


To copy myself from another post, in case this distinction was unclear:

Not all spectres are the same. You have both normal spectres that you obtain from slain enemies and special spectre types that you obtain from "corpse item" currencies (now from Ritual and the King in the Mists, originally introduced in Affliction league 3.23).

These itemized corpses/spectres are specifically prevented from being re-summoned after death and cannot be added to your "spectre bank" or spawned with Desecrate.

There is supposed to some measure of "loss-protection" when simply changing gear and unsocketing your Raise Spectre skill gem, but in certain scenarios this may not work and their loss is intended on spectre death.

Unfortunately, it has been possible for your spectre to be de-summoned without spawning its corpse, in which case the itemized spectre will be lost and must be re-obtained. One should also take care to avoid letting an automated skill destroy its corpse when it does drop.


See these wiki pages for further information:
Raise Spectre - Corpse Item Spectres
Corpse Item

According to this section of the patch notes:

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When Spectres die they now transform into a floating Orb Spectre that cannot be targeted and cannot use skills. When you enter an area the Orb Spectre will automatically transform back into the original Spectre. Orb Spectres can still be overridden when Raising new Spectres.

And: https://youtu.be/0bLtOTTlcks?t=25

I and other players who have had similar experiences with this bug (which apparently has been a thing for a while now) should not still be losing spectres like this.

There have indeed been a lot of reports involving the unexpected loss of spectres, including corpse item spectres. There seem to be additional problems with them (I wonder if this is related to a removal of the old corpse-spawning protection behaviour due to the new persistence change for fallen spectres?).


Thanks for linking Mark's spectre update video. I was indeed unaware that they had changed the policy for itemized corpses (as is the wiki entry for Raise Spectre). Apologies for asserting outdated information.

When the patch notes for 3.27 didn't specifically mention itemized spectres, I took the patch note for the change to refer to general spectres.

Hi, I just lost my spectres in my Hideout when removing the gems and recolouring the helmet sockets. When I put the gems back I could reanimate my AG but the Spectres are gone.

Nothing on the floor or when I visit a new zone, no floating orbs etc. Is this a thing and are they really gone? Do I need to purchase new ones from the market?

Maybe this is a bug, I'm not sure. Appreciate your input.