spectre bank question

I finally managed to raise the spectre of a Pale Seraphim in SSF -- at least I think I have. I can see the thing following me around, and it sure looks and acts like one. I managed to get one off a crimson iron outcropping.

But I cannot get one to appear in my Hideout using desecrate. I've desecrated more than 200 corpses, and I get all sorts of stuff I'd expect (including the 3 other spectres I had been using) repeatedly, but not a single PS.

Is there some sort of bug or glitch with spectres from creatures spawned from crimson iron mines? Or do I have to do something different? I could have sworn that last season I did not have this problem (did play ruthless SSF though).

Hmm. Not sure about this. I would just say they need to improve it. It is needlessly complicated.

My understanding from this table is:

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Desecrate

While in hideout, depending on how may you have in your spectre bank, 1-10, it decreases from 100% down to 10% spawn chance.

If it is not spawning, it may also not be in your spectre bank for some reason. I'm reading some posts saying they have at some point had PS in their spectre bank, so assume at least in the past has been possible.

The wiki has a picture of PS, it should look like this:

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Pale_Seraphim

Sounds like you do have it, but I don't know why you can't spawn it.

Thanks.
I know what a PS looks like and I'm 99% sure I have one (and not just something that looks and acts like one), but it isn't iny spectre bank.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get it there? The likelihood of it dying is small but not zero.

Edit: Apparently some can spawn from Ores.

Otherwise I dont know what would prevent it from showing up with 'Desecrate', Im not a minion expert though so there may be some reason.

And yes in general they can appear per 'Desecrate' in HO, see image:

I don't want to give you any bad advice though, because I know how hard it was for you to find it, and would not want you to do something that looses it or sets a game condition that prevents the corpse spawn if there is a way of getting it. So you probably need expect minion play advice of why it is not spawning and if you can get it to spawn without needing to find it again.

Is it the last spectre you have raised since you found it? I thought if you have it raised it will automatically be in your bank. Looks like your current spectre limit is 3? What are the other spectre you currently have? Maybe try another desecrate gem and see if anything is different?

Just be very careful with your gems that you do not change something that despawns it, becuase it sounds like it is possible you wont be able to respawn it. If it dies in a map you might be able to see if the desecrate can pull it then, but also might loose it.

Again I really think it is long overdue for a QOL improvement. You've done the hard work of finding it, there really needs to be an easier way of having it saved and available now.

You have to raise one from actual Beyond. The ones summoned by ores don't get added to the desecrate spectre bank for some reason.

I see. Is that for all specters from ore or just beyond?

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

I see. Is that for all specters from ore or just beyond?

I don't know if it's all of them, but I know it's true for Demon Harpies (another beyond monster type that spawns from ores). The ones from the ore couldn't be desecrated again later. I heard about it from the guide and discord for the holy relic flicker build I was following. It was a common issue people had.

I see. Thanks for letting us know.