I need an EARLY currency strat for my friend.

I play this game since a long time and I always considered myself a decent player. Not an 1337 player or something like that but at least somewhat decent. Now a friend of mine started to play poe1 and asked me for an early farming strategy. I thought no problem and I showed him the early strats that always worked for me BUT....... I wasn't prepared for what was coming at me. When I schowed him my atlas tree he was like "NO! I need an early strategy to get some currency. I only did my first few whithe maps and almost have no atlas points." Tbh. at this point I don't have a clue! Usually I simply rush trough the maps and then I start farming but doing all the maps within a few hours wasn't an option for him because he needed upgrades earlier. So alch and go without an atlas tree? I really don't know. Does anyone have a REALLY early strat to get some currency? Is there even one?

Heist is pretty good for early currency, and you don't really need any game knowledge. If they want to find the currency in the actual maps, I tend to be on your line of thinking, that get a bunch of map completion first and then spec into something. I would think expedition Tujen is probably also good, but I have no idea what is optimal for farming currency when immediately hitting maps. The Mercs themselves aren't too bad for currency so long as cleared quickly.

If in trade league he should be able to do pretty much anything, although at this point of the league its a bit different from league start. Probably depends on what build they are playing as well. I would think what you have suggested originally is the right advice, but maybe they are having some trouble with their build and it needs certain items to be efficient. Alva temples still have pretty good value as the league goes on, but you have to know how to build it, and there is RNG + its a big pay day rather than getting constant income.

There are some Kalgur nodes fairly close to the start of the tree on the left, wondering if that would be any good to start. Probably a fair bit of RNG on the ore you get and the shipments. Probably not great for currency, not what they are asking for, but might be interesting just looking at the start of the tree.

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

Heist is pretty good for early currency, and you don't really need any game knowledge.

Yes, thank you. This could actually work. I always forget about Heist because I hate the mechanic. ^^

Heist or Sanctum are both viable if you want to avoid atlas completion. But I would argue that for introducing a brand new player to POE1, it would be better to just teach him that most people do as you seem to do.

1. Complete campaign
2. Run through maps/atlas to 2 voidstones
3. Start some early currency farm (legion/expedition)

I'd argue you don't need an early currency strat at all. The things you need early are: crafting and atlas completion.

1. Go for full Kirac and kirac rerolls asap. Helps complete the atlas crazy fast.

2. Go for essence / harvest (can be hard) / etc. to craft better gear without having to spend any currency.

3. Go for high-unique output content if you are hunting build enabling or strong non-uber items.

4. Steer clear of HARD content: no delirium. no ultimatum. possibly no expedition (easy to brick for newer players). no anarchy. no ghosts (cuz they suck). etc.


Early on, newer player: don't farm for trade. Farm for actual item upgrades that you can do yourself. Way more effective and informative.


Going straight for currency is, imho, the wrong way to approach the game ESPECIALLY for a newer player. That is teaching them to bypass the game rather than engage with its systems. That's how you end up with a "veteran" player that doesn't know basic mechanics or strategies.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

Going straight for currency is, imho, the wrong way to approach the game ESPECIALLY for a newer player. That is teaching them to bypass the game rather than engage with its systems. That's how you end up with a "veteran" player that doesn't know basic mechanics or strategies.

Ah yes, the "do it because it's good for you arguement". Everyone loves to follow that advice! haha.

Not saying you arent giving good advice, but most new players want to blast, not learn to craft.

It sounds to me like this player might be wanting build enabling items at the start of maps. Which most experienced players would know you cant always rely upon on your league start build.

I'm sure there is a good currency strat for where they are at, but probably need to know what currency they want, what their current build is and what they are trying to achieve.

Like are they wanting to farm 50c or 50DIV.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

Ah yes, the "do it because it's good for you arguement". Everyone loves to follow that advice! haha.

Not saying you arent giving good advice, but most new players want to blast, not learn to craft.

I would disagree with this sentiment, almost to the exact opposite. Most new players DON'T want to blast. They litearlly CAN'T because they have no concept of this. They take their time. They explore every inch of every area. They read the text. They compare items. They think about every choice. They pick up everything. They TAKE THEIR TIME.

A prime example: when was the last time you ever completed any side quests that DON'T reward skill points? Greusts necklace in Act 7? The multiple secondary Ghost captain quests? When was the last time you ran a eternal lab trial in a map simply because it appeared in your map and you haven't ever seen it before?

They don't download 10 3rd party tools. They don't watch 100 youtube videos before playing. They don't read all the wiki pages.

This whole "I need to complete the atlas" or "I need the best items" or "How fast can I go" doesn't settle in until some sense of understanding of the game, and repetition occurs.

The primary focus is "what items will make my character better". That is pretty much it. Trade is secondary. Currency is secondary. Optimal strategy is secondary. It's just "how can i get better gear". And they have chosen to play a hack n slash and presumably play because its a randomized loot game. They didn't choose a market sim.


You can pretty much look at hundreds of youtube videos nowadays of "new players" experiencing games for the first time. You can see their behaviors. They want to explore every inch. They don't think of optimal play at all. It isn't even a thought to them.....unless its PLANTED into their brain.

If you tell a new player that they will never succeed without following a guide or farming currency....then ofc thats all they will think about. But that's just you putting your own "experienced" limitations on them. If you said absolutely nothing and just let that player go into the game...they will care nothing about "whats the fastest skill" or anything having to do with farming strats specifically for trade currency. They don't even know the values of what they'd be farming lol.

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Most new players DON'T want to blast. They litearlly CAN'T because they have no concept of this. They take their time. They explore every inch of every area. They read the text. They compare items. They think about every choice. They pick up everything. They TAKE THEIR TIME.

Some old ones like me too.

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

Some old ones like me too.

Of course, but I think that style of interaction is much more heavily favored by newer players. Especially over the "optimize, blast, rush, ignore everything" mentality that many (or most?) veteran players end up with.

I think the thinking level is far simpler: its a loot game. They care about the loot. They don't do much trading, they don't do much trial and error....its loot. And with loot comes using the orbs you are thrown at and read about almost immediately. New players aren't stockpiling currency for a trade....they are USING that currency on their items and seeing what happens.

Telling a new player to ignore what they see and read via "optimal strategies" that all boil down to: save currency, ignore everything else, trade. is what makes new players frustrated with the game, before they are ever given a chance to learn it and enjoy it.