Am i the only one thinking warden kinda sucks?

The tinctures are cool i guess but the implicit pool should be much larger.

Why no “all damage can bleed” mod? Or
All critical strike chance converted to accuracy until you hit 100% accurate”

Just spit balling.

Also is barkskin really worth it?

Then there is the oath…. Give up six link to get double the benefits from
Body armor… unless you use koam chest that aint worth it. If you want to go for something that doesn’t use gems…. Why not go further and really push into that? Give us skills that we can “link with skill points”

Idk it feel uninspired and everything time i come up with a new build idea i end up going for primalist due to the sheer flexibility that ascendancy offers
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Yes, you are.

Tinctures are pretty great and Oath of the Maji on builds without socket pressure is very comfortable. My SA PF can run without sockets in the helm, boots and possibly even gloves. That's 50% all res, 30% movement speed and 25% max life on a build that doesn't need those sockets.

Amplifying Taste of Hate/Progenesis on a Pathfinder is crazy.

You think it sucks because of how insane charms are.
Last edited by MyzPoE on Jan 8, 2024, 7:10:43 AM
A lot of people think that way because tinctures do nothing for meta builds aka TS/LA and lots of spells.
Its great for melee builds tho. Viper Strike of Mamba is so much stronger thanks to it.
It is the league start ascendancy, completely useless compared to the charms in end-game. This includes all poison builds.

Sure it sounds strong to have"all damage can poison"
but even that is not important in endgame poison build, flask slot can be better used and something like +3 projectiles, Culling Strike, 3% increased Poison Duration for each Poison you have inflicted Recently, up to a maximum of 100%, up to a maximum of 100%,Banner Skills have no Reservation, (16-25)% increased Effect of your Marks, All Damage can Ignite, Bleeding Enemies you Kill Explode, dealing (4-5)% of their Maximum Life as Physical Damage, Movement Speed cannot be modified to below base value,Your Hexes can affect Hexproof Enemies, (11-15)% chance to inflict Withered for 2 seconds on Hit, Damage from your Critical Strikes cannot be Reflected, +1 to Minimum Endurance Charges
+1 to Minimum Power Charges, +(10-15)% chance to Suppress Spell Damage, from charms eclipse it even for poison build.


So yeah league start warden for 30% movement speed, switch to charms as early as you can is the only way that makes sense.
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Except that there are meta builds that use Tinctures, namely Caustic Arrow of Poison with triple-ele bows and All Damage Can Poison Tincture. The one class far behind the others is Warlock which sees very little play
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It is the league start ascendancy, completely useless compared to the charms in end-game. This includes all poison builds.

Sure it sounds strong to have"all damage can poison"
but even that is not important in endgame poison build, flask slot can be better used and something like +3 projectiles, Culling Strike, 3% increased Poison Duration for each Poison you have inflicted Recently, up to a maximum of 100%, up to a maximum of 100%,Banner Skills have no Reservation, (16-25)% increased Effect of your Marks, All Damage can Ignite, Bleeding Enemies you Kill Explode, dealing (4-5)% of their Maximum Life as Physical Damage, Movement Speed cannot be modified to below base value,Your Hexes can affect Hexproof Enemies, (11-15)% chance to inflict Withered for 2 seconds on Hit, Damage from your Critical Strikes cannot be Reflected, +1 to Minimum Endurance Charges
+1 to Minimum Power Charges, +(10-15)% chance to Suppress Spell Damage, from charms eclipse it even for poison build.


So yeah league start warden for 30% movement speed, switch to charms as early as you can is the only way that makes sense.


Wrong. Being able to use tri-ele weapons and added-ele jewels to increase ur poison DMG is much better than charms. Culling Strike you can easily get from That Which was Taken, not every build cares about projectiles etc.
Just because you dont know how to use them doesnt mean they are bad. Ofc they are not as versatile like charms, which every build can use, but for some spedicifc builds made with tincture in mind, there is no better choice.
Last edited by Aynix on Jan 8, 2024, 11:21:11 AM
warden may not be as good as primalist but it has it uses.

warlock in the other hand less than 1% usage says it all...

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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/324242/page/1

I think people are sleeping on the "league start node", giving you resistances and movement speed. People are creating defensive beasts based on the 100% increased defenses" node.

I think both the Warden and the Maji are well-rounded classes. I haven't really dived into the last one, but it seems pretty niche; which isn't always a bad thing.
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I think people are sleeping on the "league start node", giving you resistances and movement speed. People are creating defensive beasts based on the 100% increased defenses" node.

I think both the Warden and the Maji are well-rounded classes. I haven't really dived into the last one, but it seems pretty niche; which isn't always a bad thing.


Warden of the Maji is the same Wildwood ascendancy class XD


the other two are

Warlock of the Mists 0.8% usage in poe ninja

Wildwood Primalist: 88% usage in poe ninja
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I tried the Warden and found it pretty useless, but I think it's because my build just didn't work with it. Seems like the Tinctures will work for most builds but the others are very build specific.

Maybe if you did a high armour + evasion build, the Barkskin would compliment it really well. Or you can do an all armour build then get Oath of the Maji with the Kaom's Roots boots, 200 life with 30 movement speed and Unwavering Stance would be nice on your boots. Detect Evil would work for any bow build.
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