[3.12] Need a little help for: Oni Goroshi Tectonic Slam Build

Hey guys,

I'm now playing PoE quite a while with some interruptions, but never at a high-level. I need a little help from you out there to improve my build. In general it works ok but it feels too squishy. The original build was this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWXvtaFVctE (Path of Exile 3.12 - Oni Goroshi Tectonic Slam Build - Chieftain Marauder - PoE Heist - PoE 3.12)

I had to change the build a little due to some problems, but I think nevertheless at the end this will not work in endgame. I explain why...

MY PoB:
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MAIN ISSUES:

When I finished the mainquest I started to realize, that there are some problems with this build:
1) The guy from the guide wrote you need 155 Strength, 98 Dexterity and 111 Intelligence to run all gems. This was not correct.

Normally we use (Gems like explained in the video):
6L: Tectonic Slam - Elemental damage with attacks - Pulverise - Fortify - Multistrike - Melee physical damage

6L: CWDT (11) - Steelskin (16) - Vaal molten shell - Enduring cry - Increased duration - Blood Rage <-- First Point
Blood Rage needs 155 Dexterity at Level 20 so we need a lot more DEX than the 95. If the idea was to keep it at level 9 it would be not possible to cast it by hand because it is linked to the level 11 CWDT. Here I run into the issue if you are not killing something continously you will just die because of the 4% loose life per second. During the combat the life leech can compensate that but I don't know how often I nearly died in the labyrinth because of this (yes could be also worse skills on my side :D ). My feeling is, that I trade surviveability for damage BUT I need more surviveability!

4L: CWDT (1) - Wave of conviction (11) - Leap slam - Summon stone golem <-- Second Point
Stone golem would give a nice life regeneration. But this small guy dies really a lot and at the moment I didn't started to play endgame-maps so this will be even worser than.

4L: Herald of ash - Blood and sand - Herald of purity - Precision

4L: Ancestral Warchief - Ancestral Protectors - Multiple Totems - Combustion
Just a question, why use both in one build? One gives damage the other attack speed but in which situation we need one more than the other? Normally I just would go with Ancestral warchief.


2) For leveling the guy proposed Praxis (Paua Ring) mainly for the -8 to total mana costs of skills. At lategame he said we don't need it anymore due to the passive "Fuel the fight" and manareg. If you have a look at his items you'll see that he really don't uses a -X to total mana cost item and is able to run his build. But honestly this don't work and people on YouTube asked the same questions without getting an answer.

To fix the mana issue I was able to find a good ring with -9 manacost of non-channeling skills. But in addition I dropped "Blood and sand" out of my gloves for "Enlighten support" (3) to free some Mana.
4L: Herald of ash - Herald of purity - Enlighten - Precision

I put "Blood and sand" into the helmet, I will explain later my new gem setting.

I changed also the skilltree too. From "Warrior's Blood" the guy went down to take a lot of strenght nodes in order to arrive at "Lava Lash", "Blade of Cunning" and so on. Later he planned to go up to "Constitution" and pick up the Jewel Slot on the way to it. I decided to free all these points to move directly from "Strongarm" to Barbarism". I used the free points to put them into "Tireless" to reduce the manacosts of my skills and to recover the life I will not able to get trough "Constitution".

At the moment this seems to work for now.


3) As I wrote at the beginning. It feels overall a little bit squishy. I could change my helmet to a rare one with life and some resistances, but I'm a little afraid that I trade too much damage for that.


MY GEM SETUP:
6L: Tectonic Slam - Elemental damage with attacks - Pulverise - Fortify - Multistrike - Melee physical damage <-- no change

6L: CWDT (11) - Steelskin (16) - Increased duration - Vaal molten shell - Enduring cry - Second wind support <-- I replaced "Blood rage" for Second wind" in order to be able to recast "Enduring cry" faster

4L: Herald of ash - Blood and sand - Herald of purity - Precision <-- "Blood and sand" changed for "Enlighten support" to free some mana

4L: Ancestral Warchief - Leap Slam - Multiple Totems - Combustion <-- "Ancestral protectors" changed for "Leap Slam"

4L: CWDT (1) - Wave of conviction (11) - Warlord's Mark (5) - Blood and sand <-- "Leap Slam" moved to another item, "Stone Golem" changed for "Warlord's Mark"


TO SUM IT UP (How I tried to solve the issues):
- Attributes: I was able to fix the attribute points problem
- Manareg not enough: Changed the tree, -X manacost of skills, "Enlighten support" for reduced mana reservation
- Squishy: Reduced cooldown for "Enduring cry", removed "Blood rage", next step could be to change the helmet :(


Thank you!
Last edited by Isgaliath on Oct 31, 2020, 7:58:02 AM
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