FB&FB Cheap Glasscannon Arena Build

3.0 Update:

Stats:
6k ES
92% fire pen (with the wands)
+145% global cast speed (+51% with FC support)
10860 ingame tooltip Flameblast avg dmg
217 000 PoB effective Flameblast avg damage at stage 10 (against 75% resist target)
59821 ingame tooltip Fireball dps
107595 PoB effective Fireball dps (against 75% resist target)
72/30% block (can get 45 or 60 spell with 1 or 2 reckless)
Light warp: 209% cast speed, 98% reduced duration






PoB: https://pastebin.com/w8DRTpiS

Tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/3.0.0/AAAABAIDABBYm6GdY1H7LahiWjdMghDtPC2LF5Z_lhFQUlMi9CqNxKJfsBps6rpsC5cGPO-KKKcrH8fBxUZx6QJkCTvjhEhvni-dTC3VgREP35gC40uutAwZimr6gwmhL9WmGyU9X4TFDly-gH-AmjtWSDbYbRlMs63xLL_NFmjyGF3DOsrTFVDsGET72CTxbeQiNbkW8-mYf8aX9EV-l5WCmyt4sZANfJu1na6et9-wXGv_ECY85-oDdXRVXyqPRiycpwivt_kzrJi-iiTYw21JG0myXwQ8BdAfh2UHpcpK7-uv69lbn987De98HxjAZvfXhW3sVfFskyc=

Bandit: passive, Pantheon: Brine and Ralakesh for now, without any upgrades



OLD POST:

aka Jorge and HarleyCue copypasta

In short: Flameblast and Fireball are nice to use together, because they scale off the same bonuses, and cover all targeting ranges, Flameblast for short-mid range, Fireball for offscreen.

So, after tanky and well rounded builds I decided to try out a glasscannon build, and I this build felt the best so far in this patch I've tried.

IMHO FB and FB are two of the best self-cast spells for HLD PvP in this meta.









Focus on getting cast speed, crit chance, increased damage, crit multi on any place you can in this order. Flameblast really needs cast speed against fast moving opponents, but the faster casting support can be easily swapped for more damage if necessary.

Keep in mind, having lower cast speed increases the damage against players by the PvP damage reduction formula, so you can get Flameblast to hit harder if you don't need that much cast speed against super tanks, but the damage to achieve oneshots.

Since you have little to no passive defense, you have to get good mobility, because you can only survive by manually dodging most people's attacks. The easiest mobility skill to use is Lightning Warp because it only needs a 3L, and a helm enchant, the cast speed is scaled very well by default. If you get nice gg speed daggers from essence with also attack speed you can use Whirling Blades. If you go Elementalist you must use at least Lightning Warp to proc Mastermind of Discord.

+your FB dps is really great but i think you need more cast speed, according to my past calculations, 230-240 cast speed is essential.

memories from the past:



+i believe, seven-step is also a must for this build.

+also, try added cold damage + pyre trick, so you can swap that green for BCR. or get another shavs for BCR swap. both good.

Nice write up. I don't know if I'd call your build cheap, but I get the general idea. :p

Do you find with having only one rolling flame jewel, you have enough aoe for fireball? Harley and I both use 4 in comparison.

With not maxing out cast speed, as you say it hurts pvp damage, do you find your flameblast is fast enough to regularly hit people? I've toyed with doing a hybrid fireball/flameblast build myself, but my cast speed around 200% felt a little lacking.

Jorge had mentioned a good "threshold" for flameblast cast speed, is around 240%. I think he runs close to 300% himself, getting only cast speed stats on his jewels. (I hope Jorge doesn't mind me sharing)

Thanks for the build overview.

also, another point;

when you start channeling FB before you, or while you are teleporting via LW, your channeling continues. when you appear next to your target you most of the time have 4-5 FB charges. at least how it was before channeling updates. that's very important trick.

another trick is micro related: when you LW to people they always run away from you, so when you channel your FB not on them but a bit far from them, they get trapped in the radius of FB.

since i had a FB build too, vs jorge when he LW's to me i was always moving towards him instead of running away from him. he was missing his flameblasts most of the time.

Is this a dream?

Markus made a glass cannon!


Also it's easier to get overlaps with more rolling flames and since fireball explodes naturally at max range, the bigger the AoE, the more "range" you end up getting too (if you get enough it also extends past the rendering threshold making the explosions invisible for those at the absolute max range).

Rup, didn't you read the thread? On my regular setup I have 242% inc cast speed, and I do have 3 shavs, all posted in the thread.

Also the LW trick doesn't work any more, they changed FB, I guess for totems, when you stop casting or run out of mana you don't have a delay to continue that channeling, it explodes immidiately. Also my LW speed is very fast (around 98% red dur, and 200% cast speed)

Also, I don't see the point of having seven-league, I mainly use LW, and the part scaled off of move speed is reduced by 98%, so it would have barely any effect on that I think.

Fire: yes, it's fast enough, but It really needs some skill at least, because the graphics of the AoE is slower than the actual AoE, and If I keep casting I just waste a lot of time, so I have to learn exactly how long it takes to reach 10 stacks, and release at the perfect time.

Also getting any more cast speed sacrifices too much damage or crit chance, not only the loss on the jewels, but as mentioned, the PvP formula punishes for the more cast speed.

Harley: I know those, but at first I really only wanted to make this build flameblast, but It really got countered by any offscreener, so I just added Fireball against those, and 1 jewel because it easily fits in the tree.

i read as 200%, it was your LW, now i see.

what im talking about LW and flameblast is different. while you are teleporting, or even before you start. start channeling FB to a point and tell me what happens.

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Márkusz wrote:

Rup, didn't you read the thread? On my regular setup I have 242% inc cast speed, and I do have 3 shavs, all posted in the thread.

Apologies. I guess I didn't read either. I saw the 205% cast speed for LW and assumed it was for your flameblast as well. I see on your stats section, the correct speed.

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Rupenus wrote:

i read as 200%, it was your LW, now i see.

what im talking about LW and flameblast is different. while you are teleporting, or even before you start. start channeling FB to a point and tell me what happens.

Doesn't seem to work at all, what was your LW duration modifier?

i didn't have helmet enchantment.