another problem with racing and balance

Which of these two is more DPS for anything but cleave? The answer is the jade chopper. Makes sense to me.





Of course if you found the equivalent to that woodsplitter in a 1h as a cleaver your DPS goes from xyz to xyz ^ 2.

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Morsexier wrote:

Which of these two is more DPS for anything but cleave? The answer is the jade chopper. Makes sense to me.





Of course if you found the equivalent to that woodsplitter in a 1h as a cleaver your DPS goes from xyz to xyz ^ 2.

Almost everything in your post is wrong.

1) That Woodsplitter has higher DPS for everything, not just cleave

Chopper
51.4 physical DPS
2.7 elemental DPS
54.1 total DPS
Woodsplitter
49.1 physical DPS
28.8 elemental DPS
77.9 total DPS

2) The damage relationship is not exponential it is multiplicative (xyz^2 should be 2*xyz), and even then only for the elemental damage.

3) There are already 2 other active topics on cleave. One of them by you, even. We get it, you have a vendetta against cleave.

He has a point. The same issue comes up with rangers when comparing short/long bows- the shortbow almost always wins. Its a problem when your supposed weapon upgrades arent actually upgrades.

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PolarisOrbit wrote:

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Morsexier wrote:

Which of these two is more DPS for anything but cleave? The answer is the jade chopper. Makes sense to me.





Of course if you found the equivalent to that woodsplitter in a 1h as a cleaver your DPS goes from xyz to xyz ^ 2.

Almost everything in your post is wrong.

1) That Woodsplitter has higher DPS for everything, not just cleave

Chopper
51.4 physical DPS
2.7 elemental DPS
54.1 total DPS
Woodsplitter
49.1 physical DPS
28.8 elemental DPS
77.9 total DPS

2) The damage relationship is not exponential it is multiplicative (xyz^2 should be 2*xyz), and even then only for the elemental damage.

3) There are already 2 other active topics on cleave. One of them by you, even. We get it, you have a vendetta against cleave.

pretty sure he is taking into consideration that you grab alot phydmg nodes which the jade chopper scales better with. im guessing its possible to oneshot most mobs in a2 with the jade chopper but not with the woodsplitter, making it way better.

Well, honestly, the two weapons are almost equal in physical dps, so it is not the physical damage nodes that make the difference (only a small difference anyway).

I would guess that Morse is referring to armor mechanics and the fact that Leap Slam's attack speed (and move speed) does not depend on the base weapon's attack speed. However, on that note, the splitter is slightly faster. Still, as was mentioned above, the chopper will oneshot more mobs than the splitter.


Edit: The phys damage nodes will obviously amplify these effects.