Please, data-person, look at how many players bail after trying and failing ToC

And then inform Jonathan how big this issue is for new players.
I've confirmed with a few new players myself. ToC is not in line with A3 difficulty at all.

Make sure that people are dying at most as much as they die in Sekhema. If not, nerf this campaign version for new players.

I myself will not play ToC regardless, the content is terrible balance aside. So please don't mistake this for a personal request. Just trying to tell you where one of your significant problems are for launch retention.
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Shame they didnt add tota. The name of it suggests it but rip.
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Shame they didnt add tota. The name of it suggests it but rip.

There were supposed to be three ways to ascend, so it could still be on the way. Or have they backtracked on there being three?
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plz#2115 wrote:
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Shame they didnt add tota. The name of it suggests it but rip.

There were supposed to be three ways to ascend, so it could still be on the way. Or have they backtracked on there being three?


yeah even before EA released they told us there will be 3 ways to ascend. i guess after they saw how much people hate shekma and toc they were like " naaaah this is fineee no need for a third way"
If the data were as bad as you say it is they probably would have dumbed it down more by now. Anyway they talked about 3rd ascencion option in yesterdays tavern talk if you care to take the time to watch
Last edited by yosheee89#3525 on May 24, 2026, 9:09:48 PM
They didn't have time to make the 3rd one but it's still in the plans.

Also trials are tests to your build, they don't scale so you don't have to do them right away but failing them is a sign your build has room for improvement. One thing is sure is that it's definitely a noob trap.
Tech guy
Last edited by Warrax#2850 on May 24, 2026, 9:40:07 PM
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Warrax#2850 wrote:
They didn't have time to make the 3rd one but it's still in the plans.



seeing how hated trials are i would've thought adding the third option would be a priority for them. i guess not. trials are literally in the top 3 reasons why people quit this game
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seeing how hated trials are i would've thought adding the third option would be a priority for them. i guess not. trials are literally in the top 3 reasons why people quit this game


probably for the best. If you can't pass trials you won't be completing the end game either
The reason many people are having trouble with Chaos Trials is the lack of defensive options in the game. The developers still don't understand the need to add life nodes and buff defensive mechanics.

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