Speed Balance,...
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... comparing the most extreme in my eyes with each other.
Yes, warriors are somehow the No 1 in races and for speedrunners, cause they use weird interactions and techniques to make it possible or cancel out enemy attacks with shield wall. This is a video which criticizes the minimum attack time of some of the abilities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcZSib2s5W0 And yet not only does the video not include the base speed of maces, which are for 2 handed maces 1.05 or 1.1 max. It also forgets to talk about the Skills attack speed penalties besides the minimum speed. EARTHQUAKE 75% of base... FORGE HAMMER 70% of base... BONESHATTER 60%... SUNDER 45% of base.... PERFECT STRIKE >>>>30%<<<<< (that requires a attack speed of 3 attacks per second to make perfect strike ONLY need 1 sec to hit) So not only is the base of speed for warriors far inferior, no the abilities itself will cripple you further. *SARCASM* "What a luck that warrior has so much possibilities to compensate for that." *SARCASM* Skill tree offering besides some hidden and weird rage tech with one specific maces, in total 23% increased attack speed from 4 skill points and having the probably best damage nodes granting us insane 5% REDUCED ATTACK SPEED, so that even if we would go for speed, we would most likely cripple ourselves again, cause we are forced to skill these damage nodes. And yes skills like Hammer of the Gods and Super Charged Slams are the No 1 in base damage output on paper. A mid tier two handed mace will have around 500 avg hit. We can now generate a max hit of around 25.000 to 45.000 damage, with hammer of the gods. The ability needs glory to be activated again (except you use certain lineage support gems), has a attack speed base of 50% and can be cancelled if you get stunned. The glory generation normally renders the ability useless for another 10 sec. (35.000 dps not constant) Lets compare that to a spellcaster with CoC, which you can pretty easily do with oracle on nearly 0 investment. A comet will do 18.000 - 50.000 damage per hit and can realistically be triggered between 5 and 8 times per second. (170.000 dps constant) Lets pretend we could overcome the 50% attack speed penalty and the glory required to recast it,... The ability itself now requires also a 2.5 sec to call in! Not only does the spellcaster on avg hit with the same or even more damage, he has no glory on it, no duration on the call in and also an instant cast time cause it was triggered by CoC. Yes Comet has +1 to cast time, which but doesn't affect the character at all and doesn't hinder you from cast 5 other comets, cause spark or arc still hits 10 other enemies in the time a warrior just calls in 1 ability. The best about all that, is probably, that warriors will in most of these cases spend life instead of mana cause the gear mod pressure on warrior is just 1000x higher as of casters, which wouldn't even allow for another mana Leech modifier on gear or the investment to make mana pool high enough to not struggle on it, while the casters can go CI and stack mana higher as a warrior could ever stack life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz493ZMIZ7w CI just removes so much pressure on gear, since you can ignore LIFE and any CHAOS resistance requirements on gear, in addition to bleeding and poison immunity. Does warrior have anything similar to that? Or am I just doomed to feel like a cripple? The guy in the video I linked at first also mentioned that GGG doesn't want us to blink around like in PoE 1, with leap slam.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYvpup1a5Bo I understand that some players are doing very well with Warrior builds, and that’s great to see. However, I’d personally prefer the game to be balanced around the broader player base rather than the top-end builds that are optimized very quickly and often complete most content within the first few days of a league and then move on shortly after. I want to challenge anyone to show me something that is able to compete with the shown URLs in terms of damage and/or speed on a warrior. Last edited by InvisiblePosture#7553 on May 21, 2026, 2:04:48 PM Last bumped on May 21, 2026, 2:04:00 PM
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