Harvest Reduced Notables possibly not working as intended

good day, i've noticed that yellow juice seems to drop less frequently than usual even when you allocate 45% reduced purple and blue.

i thought this was just confirmation bias until someone in reddit posted their findings on yellow juice being less common than usual. the summary is that after checking 2.3k+ plots, yellow plots seem to be significantly less common than they should be. with 45% reduced purple and blue, we should have around 47.62% appearances of yellow juice, yet his results only show 40.4%

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1suxbzq/data_harvest_yellow_plots_significantly_lower/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


i did some testing on my own with 1825 plots checked, and have come to the similar conclusion that yellow is lesser than it should be

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BRN-Pna0bACK3BzJrkx5CcPioSMfE6Jx/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110633956119650061541&rtpof=true&sd=true


someone in that same reddit post did some testing on their own with zero harvest notables and they found out that the distribution for the juice is equal with each other, meaning that there possibly couldn't be any shadow changes to make yellow less common than it should be

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1suxbzq/comment/oi5cync/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

this leads us to believe that its possible a few of the atlas notables might either not work, or that some of the notables that reduce purple/blue plots from spawning might be accidentally reducing yellow's too.



i am asking GGG to check if there's something wrong with the notables. thank you

Hiya, another harvest enthusiast here.

I tracked and ran harvest back in Settlers with 45% reduced blue and 25% reduced yellow for crop rotation. I ended up with 212 blue, 260 yellow, and 341 purple (yep, I missed one garden on my 12th run)... and then I stopped recording and kept harvesting because I had convinced myself that things were working as intended.

26.1% blue vs 23.9% expected
32.0% yellow vs 32.6% expected (slightly lower than predicted)
41.9% purple 43.5% expected

Enter reddit post by shmoodude993 - the one you referenced. I started running again (in standard, so no miraged areas, if that matters) with 45% reduced purple and 25% reduced yellow (still doing crop rotation), and am currently at 447 yellow, 547 blue, and 326 purple.

32.9% yellow vs 32.6% expected (slightly higher than predicted)
41.4% blue vs 43.5% expected
24.7% purple vs 23.9% expected.

I don't see anything out of the ordinary with reducing blue OR purple, but I agree your data, and shmoodude993's data, is very off - and the chances you'd both get to the same level seems to indicate something's wrong.

I might do some non-crop rotation farming with reduced blue/purple and see if I can replicate your findings; if I do I'll update this reply later

Regardless, +1 for a look at garden color spawn distributions with different atlas passive allocations, GGG, thank you

its very possible harvest in mirage has different crop color base spawn rates than normal ones in maps and that might be throwing off data.

I don't run any of the color influencing stuff(harvest was a secondary farm for my atlas tree, so only had the other stuff) and mostly saw blue and purple in my miraged harvests