Doryani's Machinarium.

It's been god knows how many leagues now with the same lame challenge, and each league you have to pay countless divines if you don't find this map.

I waited as long as i could i hopes of finding it myself, but alas i did not.

So i had to pay 29 divs for 1 stupid unique map, that gives zero in return.

So my suggestion is, that you increase the droprate of Doryani's map, maybe same rate as putrid cloister. Or even remove it from the challenge.

The ssf people would also benefit greatly from this.

Since you compare the drop rate to that of Putrid Cloister, you seem to think that Doryani's Machinarium drops normally from monsters. It doesn't. It's an exclusive drop from the Vaal boss in Delve. It has a drop rate of about 1/6 from the boss, so not too bad. But you'll have to delve to farm it. I'm not sure if Rin in Fortification can also give you that map.

As a Delve enjoyer I've never had problems finding the map. In fact, I have 2 extra in my (SSF) stash xD

Oh snap thought it was a world drop, doesn't change the fact it's a stupid challenge that is only hard because of it's price.

i feeling like they have made this challenge as an easy solution to prop up delve as a viable farming mechanic.

It was tolerable when you could get it with scouting reports but now the price reflects that. It should be removed from the pool of challenge maps. Other weirdo maps (GM and UP) are not part of the challenge. Why is this stupid map there?

Yeah Doryani's Machinarium is not nearly accessible enough for an item that's going to be regularly required for challenges. Comprehensive scouting reports used to help mitigate this - you actually had a somewhat reasonable way to get the map. Now though, we're stuck with betrayal or delve and neither one is reasonable.

If GGG wants to keep making this map required then it should be a much more reasonable drop (at least 50% from the boss if not better) or have some other accessible way to get it. If delve really needs the reward boost then just start buffing delve.

On the topic of Delve, this really is a mechanic that needs some attention from GGG. City nodes, map nodes, league-specific nodes, gem nodes, and potentially currency nodes all need to have improvements. None of these nodes have even slightly meaningful rewards but are distributed as if they do. They don't necessarily all need to have exciting rewards, but if they don't then they should become more common.

Cities specifically should probably just always spawn with a boss node. Bosses are the only thing exciting about cities and that means any bossless city is very disappointing.

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+1 on replace this map with other unique maps, or change the requirement from "one of each" to "100 of any total" (and I mean ANY, let synthesis in that list).

EDIT: I realized "challenges" supposed to be "challenging". Allow me to take this back.

You don't have to pay 29 div alone. You buy the map you announce in global 820 that you have the map and you are about to start and you instantly get a full party. The map only effectively costs 1/5 or 1/6 of that. YOu will always find players to share the map with all you have to do is buy it first because everyone seems to just lurk in global and wait for someone else to do it.

When i did the challenge the map was 19 div and i got my money back it was absolutely no problem. I do all the challenges alone but not this one obv. Even if one **** doesn't pay, so be it. Most ppls do.

I think it's fine that there's some "challenge" involved to get all the "challenges". Even if u argue it's not challenging to get 30divs, well it's a grind nonetheless.

Challenges are not a battlepass that everyone is supposed to achieve. If u care enough to go for those, u can be expected to do some delving or farm currency.

This league there was a part of a challenge to kill Aul, so I just combined that with killing the vaal boss and it was easy. By the time u find Aul u got alot of vaal bosses already.

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

I think it's fine that there's some "challenge" involved to get all the "challenges". Even if u argue it's not challenging to get 30divs, well it's a grind nonetheless.

Challenges are not a battlepass that everyone is supposed to achieve. If u care enough to go for those, u can be expected to do some delving or farm currency.

This league there was a part of a challenge to kill Aul, so I just combined that with killing the vaal boss and it was easy. By the time u find Aul u got alot of vaal bosses already.

I realized something reading this.
Allow me to take back and return to neutral on this topic.