penance mark not spawning minions

hi,

very often - mostly on bosses - the penance mark from hateful accuser is not spawning any minions. i tested it on many bosses and ulti boss, even on white maps, noone in chat can tell me why its not working.

a friend has the same build and its working for him
Last bumped on Mar 23, 2026, 8:00:29 PM
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joseas#5461 wrote:
hi,

very often - mostly on bosses - the penance mark from hateful accuser is not spawning any minions. i tested it on many bosses and ulti boss, even on white maps, noone in chat can tell me why its not working.

a friend has the same build and its working for him


Does your friend have Whispers of Doom annointed or Malevolence Sublime? You have 2 curses and one curse limit that I can see.
hey!

he should have the exact same build, i checked (ign: Sumorai), he doesnt have 2 curselimit and still penance is working.

when i fight f.e. trialmaster on white map, i can see the punishment curse symbol and the mark, but no minions are spawning when he hits me
My understanding when I used Penance Mark earlier this league is you manually cast the mark, and it summons the phantasms automatically while cursed.. assuming the boss is not hexproof or 100% reduced effect of curses (scales the # of minions spawned).

From what I can see from both of your set-ups, you can manually cast the mark, you get hit (stunned), and then Punishment should override the Mark and stops spawning the minions since enemies only have a one curse limit by default.

Does the lack of phantasms still happen if you unsocket Punishment from your helm and then cast Penance Mark?
i ll try to it out, if it works without punishment.

but my friend just tested it. he let punishment procc, then he casted penance mark and minion start to spawn when he gets hit. seems that penance mark is overwritting the punishment.

there is one difference, his punishment is lvl 21
If your friend is able to have 2 curses applied on the same enemy, at the same time, it sounds more like they are bugged, but could be they just got some phantoms spawned before they got hit.

For reference, Penance automatically summons phantoms and does not require getting hit to summon them. It's the getting hit that applies Punishment that should override Penance Mark with a one curse limit.

One other theory to rule out, this is solo play, right? I know there's some duo play stuff with Ultimatum and just being sure this isn't a case of some alt that has +1 curse that is boosting the max curse limit with their own curse.
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If your friend is able to have 2 curses applied on the same enemy, at the same time, it sounds more like they are bugged, but could be they just got some phantoms spawned before they got hit.

For reference, Penance automatically summons phantoms and does not require getting hit to summon them. It's the getting hit that applies Punishment that should override Penance Mark with a one curse limit.

One other theory to rule out, this is solo play, right? I know there's some duo play stuff with Ultimatum and just being sure this isn't a case of some alt that has +1 curse that is boosting the max curse limit with their own curse.


we finally worked it out, i need to hit the marked enemy for spawning the phantasms, i had no attack or spell that can hit. putting in flamesurge (hitting spell) got things working

u are right u cant have hex and mark on a target at the same time without having curselimit 2+

it seems alternate between mark and hex, which is ok


ty for ur infos my friend!
Ah right, I was spamming Fire Trap back then too. Glad you guys got it sorted.

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