help with using mageblood and progenesis

Hi, I bought both Mageblood and Progenesis for my Ciclone Slayer character. The thing is that I was using Headhunter with really good results.
However I switched for these two items and look for flasks with increased effects. I do more dmg at base but the headhunters buffs where so much stronger, like a lot of the time my ciclone has 3M dmg and now it reaches 1M200k dmg with mage blood.
The other problem is I am easier to kill. I died 5 times with progenesis and I have no counter vs corrupted blood. I expected it to save me from burst dmg but I die anyways.
Even the gold flask, I expected more gold from monster but I got the same. The character has 120% rarity of items but it didnt change much (maybe I didnt test enough?), not many uniques items either.

I like to play maps with lots of monsters, like domination, altar, etc. I am not interested in uber bossing. I dont like t17 because its easy to die. I am lazy right now I want to spin to win and clear all the map withouth worry about dying.

Any suggestion will help, I feel like I wasted 200divs with these items because they didnt add anything good, but I am sure I am not using them right.
Also what is the best way to share info about the character here? It has too many stats and even if I copy-pasted all I feel some important info may be missing
Last edited by Articun#5540 on Jan 31, 2026, 8:18:33 PM
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Un-privating your characters will make them available for others to see. If you're not wanting to do that, and just want to show this character, a POB link is most likely the best way, people will be able to look at the link.

It's possible HH is better for your build and the clearing style you are playing. MB would be a generally better item in my opinion, and probably confirmed by the price, but not universally better, and sounds like the HH might be pretty good for what you are doing. Those items will have good resale so it shouldn't be all that costly if you are wanting to go back.

Probably best to test it out more first though. Maybe try running with CB immunity or see how it goes with your flask instead of Progenesis. Make sure your flask setup is as good as it can be with all the mods and enchantments. Hard to give more specific advice without seeing build, but once you add it some others will be able to advise. Might be that if its a low EHP build with big DPS that the Progenesis doesn't make a huge difference. You often need good recovery on your build for progenesis since the incoming damage is being delayed and you are giving up a life flask.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Feb 1, 2026, 6:33:54 PM
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Un-privating your characters will make them available for others to see. If you're not wanting to do that, and just want to show this character, a POB link is most likely the best way, people will be able to look at the link.

It's possible HH is better for your build and the clearing style you are playing. MB would be a generally better item in my opinion, and probably confirmed by the price, but not universally better, and sounds like the HH might be pretty good for what you are doing. Those items will have good resale so it shouldn't be all that costly if you are wanting to go back.

Probably best to test it out more first though. Maybe try running with CB immunity or see how it goes with your flask instead of Progenesis. Make sure your flask setup is as good as it can be with all the mods and enchantments. Hard to give more specific advice without seeing build, but once you add it some others will be able to advise. Might be that if its a low EHP build with big DPS that the Progenesis doesn't make a huge difference. You often need good recovery on your build for progenesis since the incoming damage is being delayed and you are giving up a life flask.


Thanks for the answer
I am not sure but I think I made the character tab public. Can you see it?
Here the POB: https://maxroll.gg/poe/pob/308770lj

I am following this guide:
https://mobalytics.gg/poe/builds/cyclone-slayer-league-starter-to-endgame-step-by-step-guide-beginner-friendly?ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C4bdbd3bf-ee28-4e91-b185-4d6981c84ee7

I am testing how it goes with Progenesis and didn't die yet. I keep the life flask just in case. Now that I think of it, the dmg of HH is 3M depending on the buff I stole while MB gives more consistent dmg (always reach 1.6-2.2M witch Cyclone of Tumult, 1.2M with normal cyclone). Just in case I want to clarify that I see this dmg hovering the mouse over the skill or in the character panel, not in POB.

What I like is that MB seems super flexible to build. I dont have too much health regen, only phys leech to survive. I was thinking that if I add resistances via flask I can look for other mods in the items. However I dont have too many divs yet and I wont have until I sell some items or do a shipment.

I got better results with the gold now so it was bad luck the first maps.
Last edited by Articun#5540 on Feb 1, 2026, 8:44:40 PM
Yeah they are viewable now.

Looks like you have a pretty good build going to me. Getting your flasks enchants close to 70 might be good if you start min-maxing. I would think you have enough damage for your leech to be covering the delayed damage. Having a bit more life would probably be good if possible.

I don't know a lot about HH builds or MF, so i'll leave that for others to comment. Makes sense that it would be more consistent with MB, but perhaps not as powerful as when you have a lot of good HH mods stacked up.



Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Feb 1, 2026, 10:08:29 PM
Nicee, thanks! I am happy that I learnt how to share my builds to ask for suggestions. Its true that I am a bit low on life. I have a ranged character with 1k more life so it should be possible to have more
That maxroll viewer looks like a good one, shows a comprehensive view of most things.

Yeah, mightn't be so easy though, looks like you've been pretty efficient with your tree and items.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Feb 2, 2026, 9:54:06 PM
I will try to level up so I can add a jewel with life. The guide I am following also has 100% elemental ailments inmmunity, which I dont.
The situations I die usually involve corrupted 8-mod t16 maps with some exarch debuff. Some robots shoot electrical orbs that hit a lot and then I explode. Perhaps they apply shock?
Could be. Not sure exactly what mob that is. Try soul of gaurakan pantheon perhaps, if you aren't needing it for something else, since you can't use flasks or tempest shield. There might be some other options for shock mitigation as well.

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