POE2 the Slot machine market simulator ARPG.

It seems as if POE2 is going to turn into a streamer zDPS slot machine and end game market simulator. What happened GGG? Please make progression in the endgame much smoother and simple. Many of us want to avoid the divine per hour streamer market simulator of trade league. How is this so difficult for you, you are making a lot of the same mistakes you've made in POE1.

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jester971#1051 wrote:

you are making a lot of the same mistakes you've made in POE1.

It's the same crew who already made PoE1 that overcomplicated niche clunkfest. They simply re-import every detail of PoE1 into PoE2 and miss the chance to start something new.

When i played the last Abyss league, i was like "holy eff, did they really learn to offer some kind of deterministic crafting"? No, they didn't.

They are obsessed with casino crafting, they are obsessed with full rng no matter what and they are obsessed with playtime metrics. And all of this because streamers exist. So, everyone has to feel the full pain of a hypothetical brilliant game being ruined by it's own developers, cause GGG is pleasing 1% of their player base by ignoring the other 99%.

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

They are obsessed with casino crafting, they are obsessed with full rng no matter what and they are obsessed with playtime metrics. And all of this because streamers exist. So, everyone has to feel the full pain of a hypothetical brilliant game being ruined by it's own developers, cause GGG is pleasing 1% of their player base by ignoring the other 99%.

there is still a lot of problems that is not being fixed or adressed at all since 0.1 launch. that's why it became irritating one year later, because the game barely making any progress while becoming more convoluted with 1000 diffirent stupid currencies.

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They are obsessed with casino crafting, they are obsessed with full rng no matter what and they are obsessed with playtime metrics. And all of this because streamers exist. So, everyone has to feel the full pain of a hypothetical brilliant game being ruined by it's own developers, cause GGG is pleasing 1% of their player base by ignoring the other 99%.

Agreed, this is why I quit POE1 years ago. I woke up one day, started a map and thought why am I doing this. After a spectacular POE2 campaign the endgame has definitely turned into a streamer dominated casino market simulator and it is a horrible experience. It clearly shows their endgame vision.

It sure would be nice to have an ARPG with POE2 campaign quality with more reasonable target farming and deterministic gear progression. I would love to try so many different builds but the Streamer zDPS divines per hour slot machine market simulator is too boring.

This endgame was a huge swing and a miss from the beginning and I have zero faith they will get this right with all of the stream influence.

Also, I do enjoy watching streamers as well. There are many great POE1 and 2 streamers. I just don't want to play in trade league with them. I'm not trying to insult the streamers, but "it is what it is".

And just on a positive note: Well done on the campaign GGG. Wow.

Nobody cares about the campaign in an ARPG. It is not for the target audience.

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default_mp3#9394 wrote:

there is still a lot of problems that is not being fixed or adressed at all since 0.1 launch. that's why it became irritating one year later, because the game barely making any progress while becoming more convoluted with 1000 diffirent stupid currencies.

The amount of currency is completely absurd and convoluted. I just want an ARPG of POE2 quality where you spend more time playing the game and content than you do playing stash Tetris and market simulator. And the league "mechanics" of here is a circle with mobs is so old and tired.

One of the reasons why I want to move to something simple like arc raiders. simple crafting , fun and hell no gambling stupidity.

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

Nobody cares about the campaign in an ARPG. It is not for the target audience.

That's the entire point. The campaign is great, but ultimately you finish it and move on. The endgame is an absolute trash mess and the changes they have made to it have been very POE1 like streamer zDPS market simulator casino endgame.

Many of us hoped that the endgame would be more SSF friendly so we could avoid that whole arc, but it sure doesn't seem to be heading that direction.

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SaKRaaN#0012 wrote:

One of the reasons why I want to move to something simple like arc raiders. simple crafting , fun and hell no gambling stupidity.

I am not a huge fan of Last Epoch, but do play it sometimes. One thing that they do much better than GGG is the gear progression system. It's much more creative than what GGG has come up with.