Meta energy skill gems and weapon swap for hybrid classes (Druid)

If I am not wrong, "Cast on X" and other meta energy gems have to be charged with energy by the same weapon set that uses the trigger.

If this is correct, hybrid classes such as druid have a big limitation: you may want to gain energy using attacks and consume it for spells. But it will use the weapon set of the attacks!

Simple example: a wyvern based around ignite and fire would love to use cast on ignite: breathing fire and that causes energy gain to trigger-cast spells. But that only works by gaining energy on talisman weapon set and triggering and casting *with the other weapon set*.

If I am wrong and this can be done, great!

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pwmwpw#0987 wrote:

If I am not wrong, "Cast on X" and other meta energy gems have to be charged with energy by the same weapon set that uses the trigger.

If this is correct, hybrid classes such as druid have a big limitation: you may want to gain energy using attacks and consume it for spells. But it will use the weapon set of the attacks!

Simple example: a wyvern based around ignite and fire would love to use cast on ignite: breathing fire and that causes energy gain to trigger-cast spells. But that only works by gaining energy on talisman weapon set and triggering and casting *with the other weapon set*.

If I am wrong and this can be done, great!

Not sure because i didnt see any changes in patch notes...so as long as you activate cast on crit/ailment on both bars there shouldnt be any limitation?

IT's still a spirit gem so weapon doesnt matter, right??

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IILU81II#8410 wrote:

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pwmwpw#0987 wrote:

If I am not wrong, "Cast on X" and other meta energy gems have to be charged with energy by the same weapon set that uses the trigger.

If this is correct, hybrid classes such as druid have a big limitation: you may want to gain energy using attacks and consume it for spells. But it will use the weapon set of the attacks!

Simple example: a wyvern based around ignite and fire would love to use cast on ignite: breathing fire and that causes energy gain to trigger-cast spells. But that only works by gaining energy on talisman weapon set and triggering and casting *with the other weapon set*.

If I am wrong and this can be done, great!

Not sure because i didnt see any changes in patch notes...so as long as you activate cast on crit/ailment on both bars there shouldnt be any limitation?

IT's still a spirit gem so weapon doesnt matter, right??

I am not saying it cannot be casted. I am saying that the whole point of a hybrid class is using one weapon set to get spell related buffs and the other to get attack related buffs (nodes, weapons, etc.)

Yes I could "Cast on ignite" a fireball with the talisman weapon set. But now I dont get any of the benefits from the other weapon set, the one for spells! This has happened to monk since EA release last year:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3619842

The quick solution is to add that "meta gems always gain energy regardless of weapon set" and change their individual use to the weapon set you decide.

Then again, maybe this has been changed at some point and I am wrong. But I don't know since I haven't tested this hybrid int class interaction.

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pwmwpw#0987 wrote:

The quick solution is to add that "meta gems always gain energy regardless of weapon set" and change their individual use to the weapon set you decide.

Then again, maybe this has been changed at some point and I am wrong. But I don't know since I haven't tested this hybrid int class interaction.

True, no stat bonus if no staff/wand equipped.

Though that would cause an auto weapon swap forcing the character to leave whatever form is using to match the weapon set assigned to that skill?
Talismans are martial weapons so you always need a staff/wand equipped for the benefit and if you cast a non shapeshift/talisman skill you turn human, right?

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IILU81II#8410 wrote:

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pwmwpw#0987 wrote:

The quick solution is to add that "meta gems always gain energy regardless of weapon set" and change their individual use to the weapon set you decide.

Then again, maybe this has been changed at some point and I am wrong. But I don't know since I haven't tested this hybrid int class interaction.

True, no stat bonus if no staff/wand equipped.

Though that would cause an auto weapon swap forcing the character to leave whatever form is using to match the weapon set assigned to that skill?
Talismans are martial weapons so you always need a staff/wand equipped for the benefit and if you cast a non shapeshift/talisman skill you turn human, right?

If that is the case then its even worse. You are flying in the sky breathing fire and that will stop because weapon swap is triggered?

If meta energy gems are "Something you DONT cast yourself" they should not be limited by yourself. Free use of weapon set without affecting current character weapon set I say!

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pwmwpw#0987 wrote:

If that is the case then its even worse. You are flying in the sky breathing fire and that will stop because weapon swap is triggered?

If meta energy gems are "Something you DONT cast yourself" they should not be limited by yourself. Free use of weapon set without affecting current character weapon set I say!

Totally agree, that should be the way...i was also thinking about bear "cast on" but then that issue came into mind and if just works like i said it's garbage.