Zoom is not fun. It's loot FOMO

People claim to want AoE zoom farm because it's fun, and they point to the popularity of zoom builds as their evidence.

I submit, that players gravitate toward these builds not because they are ideal game design, but because without them, they feel they would not progress as fast as others.

But if you were to give the player base the unlimited option of clicking a button in their inventory labeled "generate divine orb", almost everyone would use it; even though at the same time, they would recognize this button as bad for the game. Build usage is not a good argument for good game design.

For those who disagree, answer this question:

If you could play an incredibly fast one-click zoom build that cleared monsters from a screen away, but in order to play this build you had to take the ascendancy node "-95% item quantity" would you play it?

Conversely, if there was a build which cleared 25% as fast, but had access to the ascendancy node "+1000% item quantity" would you play it?

So much for the enjoyability of zoom. These builds are played for the farming advantage relative to other players, more so than for any intrinsic element of fun.

Players are the issue.

Not playing for fun, but making a job out of the game instead.
GGG needs to work with that.

Awwwww...

Very poor attempt.

Degrading the idea to an absurd, so you can prove your point, is very good idea.

But with this -95% and +10000% you totally messed up.

You need to learn how to do it more subtle.

You cannot go and say "if we cut your both arms will you play zoom zoom? No? See you don't want to play it"

P.S: Did you see what I just did...

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Skellymancer#5263 wrote:

Awwwww...

Very poor attempt.

Degrading the idea to an absurd, so you can prove your point, is very good idea.

But with this -95% and +10000% you totally messed up.

You need to learn how to do it more subtle.

You cannot go and say "if we cut your both arms will you play zoom zoom? No? See you don't want to play it"

P.S: Did you see what I just did...

The reductio ad absurdum is intentional, and works fine. Which is why you can't answer the questions I posed.

Your comparison of cutting off limbs is a false equivalence, because nobody is playing their zoom build to keep their arms.

It is also a self-defeating point, because the implication of your example is that you are only playing a zoom build to save your arms; not because it's fun.

And that dear friend is the point. People care about the loot first, then post-hoc rationalize that it is fun to thoughtlessly click one button.