Is Exile UI considered cheating, or is it simply an overlay?

Exile UI: League-Start QoL Features Showcase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89EHnS3bqI

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I’d like to ask the dev team if this violates the game’s terms or not.

I'm not sure about POE, but I know from pretty much every other online game I've ever played, unless they specifically say you can use something, anything that gives you an advantage over other players is considered a no no, and auto key and other similar apps have always been considered a bannable thing to use.

Having watched the video, part of it reminds me of maphack from my days on diablo 2 LoD, it was undetected for months, almost everyone had tried it, then one day Blizzard decided enough was enough and did a huge purge and next thing a huge portion of the player base had their accounts banned.

I wouldn't risk it unless you've nothing to lose, but it does look cool as f*ck.

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xsnookumsx#3773 wrote:

anything that gives you an advantage over other players is considered a no no,

That's a vague statement considering that

a) this is a trade-based game
b) price checking is important
c) awakened POE trade does price checking quickly
d) that thing is allowed

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mnieradko#6070 wrote:

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xsnookumsx#3773 wrote:

anything that gives you an advantage over other players is considered a no no,

That's a vague statement considering that

a) this is a trade-based game
b) price checking is important
c) awakened POE trade does price checking quickly
d) that thing is allowed

I did start my reply by saying I wasn't sure about POE, but in virtually every other game I have played even the trading ones it's always been considered a bad thing.

Plus, that overlay uses autohotkey, it's not like it's a website you go to where it's completely separate to the game.

Like in BDO, BlackDesert Online, lots of trading sites where you can go min / max all the prices for maximum profit, 100% legal, but you use autohotkey or anything similar and it's considered a bannable action.

Very big difference.

If it is strictly an overlay that doesn't interact with the server (game or website) in any way, then it is permitted.

Overlays

• Cannot interact with the server in any way (game or website).
• You are responsible if the overlay does anything without your knowledge.
• Overlays strictly place an image on your screen over the untouched game.

Macros

• Can only perform a single server side action per press of the button. The old school macro to activate all flasks with a single button press was bannable.
• Cannot be automated in any form. You press the button, and the action happens immediately.
• It cannot read your screen's pixels, move your cursor, or do anything on your behalf.
• A line of text "press enter > insert command or message > press enter" is a single server side action. This means an "@last Thank you for trading" macro is permitted (or whatever the whisper reply command is).
• The macro must perform the exact same action every single press.

Exile UI violates the ToS. I'm pretty sure if I detailed how it violates the ToS, support would come in an remove it for me violating the forums ToS. If you have any further doubts, support obviously didn't like what you posted. Oddly enough, they left the link to the video, so maybe I'm wrong. In all likelihood there are features that are permitted and features that are not.

Seems like the most relevant question is if anyone has ever been actioned against for using this overlay, or if they've explicitly said don't use it anywhere.

Odds of getting a dev response saying it's OK are basically 0 - Devs typically don't say something's OK because it boxes them into a corner. They will however explicitly say when something isn't OK.

So the real question is
1) has anyone been actioned against for this
2) have the devs specifically said anywhere it's not OK

If the answer to the above is both "no", then the overlay is likely safe to use, at least until #1 and #2 aren't true anymore, then it won't be.

I'd also imagine a ton of people use stuff like this, if no one has ever been actioned before for it, and they've never explicitly said "stop using that" it seems unlikely they will just wake up one day and decide to ban tens of thousands of accounts with 0 warning.

Most (good) devs give a "knock it off" type of announcement when they decide there's an addon many of their players are using that they want to squish.

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

Seems like the most relevant question is if anyone has ever been actioned against for using this overlay, or if they've explicitly said don't use it anywhere.

Odds of getting a dev response saying it's OK are basically 0 - Devs typically don't say something's OK because it boxes them into a corner. They will however explicitly say when something isn't OK.

They never confirm either way, it's always the same canned response

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Unfortunately, we cannot comment on the legality of third-party tools, as we aren't able to thoroughly and accurately check exactly how they work.

We do not encourage the creation or use of third-party tools because they provide advantages for players that use them. I'm afraid that we're unable to guarantee if a tool is allowed or would remain allowed in the future.

I would recommend refraining from creating or using any programs that automates or does more than one action with a keystroke or mouse click as well as anything that interacts with the game client to provide an advantage over other players or provide information that isn't normally visible.

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xsnookumsx#3773 wrote:

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mnieradko#6070 wrote:

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xsnookumsx#3773 wrote:

anything that gives you an advantage over other players is considered a no no,

That's a vague statement considering that

a) this is a trade-based game
b) price checking is important
c) awakened POE trade does price checking quickly
d) that thing is allowed

I did start my reply by saying I wasn't sure about POE, but in virtually every other game I have played even the trading ones it's always been considered a bad thing.

Plus, that overlay uses autohotkey, it's not like it's a website you go to where it's completely separate to the game.

Like in BDO, BlackDesert Online, lots of trading sites where you can go min / max all the prices for maximum profit, 100% legal, but you use autohotkey or anything similar and it's considered a bannable action.

Very big difference.

Sure Awakened POE Trade uses AHK but it's only working from clipboard data that is provided by the game when you mouse over and item and hit ctrl + c, it doesn't directly interact with the client to read the stats from the screen etc.