I just realized, experience is more broken than I thought.

SSF

Broken as in bad.

I've always had an issue biting at me. Why do I get absolutely dogshit experience(xp) in this game, yet I'm always under pressure of death. Always.

For instance, if you're in Final Fantasy and fighting lower level mobs- you annihilate them... and they do no damage to you. You also get no experience, no rewards.

In poe, the mobs still do massive damage, and you get no experience, no rewards. Sometimes even at content your level, haha. :(


I think that we as players naturally expect dangerous content to provide the usual things that dangerous content USUALLY does. Upgrades. Progress.


Then layer maps onto this. So now we have low level content, with possible rolls of +x% damage, multiple times, + crit mods, + straight damage mods, rares themselves can also roll + damage mods... low level content in this game can not only kill you- it can vaporize.

The experience gained doesn't increase, regardless of all of that extra threat. So you may die much more easily and lose x% exp, however you have gained nothing in exp for the risk. AH, that is a MASSIVE issue.

Exp should scale not off of mob level, it should scale off of mob threat... or something along those lines, dmg, something. All you'd have to do is modify exp gain by +x%dmg. Fixed.

I'll take +x%dmg rolls if I'm also getting a decent amount of exp for it, hell yeah, lets go.

I don't know why it took me forever to notice this.

i levelled one character to 96 this season but it was a nightmare and took forever. in comparison in poe1 i can level to 96 in just a few hours. and thats just with mapping no 5 ways or anything

exp is really bad in this game. even if you dont die you barely get any xp

Agreed, it adds to the unrewarding feel the game has taken on.

PoE2 from the outside seems like a heavy customization looter, but it plays more like a meta focused MMO with strategically placed roadblocks.

The drops feel unrewarding, customization half your passives or gear feel wasted on basic sustain. And then you add your point... Progression both in Map Tiers and Character levels feels non-existent. There's risk but no since of reward.

The more we highlight the issue of it not being a joy or fun experience the better chances we have someone will listen to reason.

the upper levels might be worse from the mlvl gap, but 94-95 took me only about a day at 4-5% a map, and 95 isn't looking that much slower, 3-4%, since my gear's better and I'm running denser maps.

I would say it's both build and outlook dependent though. My friend has the outlook where he's a literal glass cannon (5k es, no eva, no armor) and frequently dies because of it, but somehow still expects to level. On the other hand I built way more defensively but have less top end dps (also more conditional). I still get deleted from time to time but I can usually see it coming. I get to be less careful about the maps I run = less resource issues.

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For instance, if you're in Final Fantasy and fighting lower level mobs- you annihilate them... and they do no damage to you. You also get no experience, no rewards.

That's the same here? Like you go back into a campaign zone and they're going to tickle you. PoE's always been a game of "tick off these checkboxes" in terms of resist cap, defensive layers and status immunities. You can get reduced damage from critical hits on gear/tree, reduced chance to be critically hit, 200% armor vs crit hit, take no crit hits while parrying, etc. - many options. Rolling maps is a thing in PoE so I'm not sure why this is different? I would like to see T15s 3:1-able though. Not being able to alt/scour means you hit dead ends (or have to run sketchy maps sometimes) and running XIVs to generate more XVs feels bad.

As for xp, there's quite a lot of it on tablets and some of the corrupted zones have -rarity +% xp, like ~1/3 of an Untainted Paradise.

I do think SSF doesn't have enough tools to have an overall enjoyable experience though, trade patches a lot of the deficits.

If you go for only leveling it is reasonably fasat unitl level 97, then it slows down a lot.

Best way to do all of it is getting all of your corrupt nexus Atlas Points, then gear everything to Pack size, run pakc size maps and look for corrupted nexuses that give + to experience. And for untianted paradises.

Then look out for experience tablets to use on the corrupted maps.

The only actual issue with experience i see is the EXP Penalty. Sometiems oyu just die without even knowing what killed you.