Closed-In Layouts Are Too Terrible

Even after nerfs to open layouts, when running a small or closed in layout, I still get magnitudes less currency.

Running a Crypt, for example, I got 2ex with +90% quantity of items. Compared to an open layout, I will drop many times more than this in a breach or two.

https://youtu.be/K2WoBTghK_s?si=eoICfkNK9RpMyNkT&t=682

The baseline of bad layouts being bad is too low. If the game is meant to be about doing many different layouts on an infinite atlas then the maps need to perform relatively in line with each other.

There should be some open rooms in these worse layouts with monster spawns and interactions that make them a bit better while keeping the flavour

Crypt cant have same mob's pack % of blooming field or steppe, it would be a mess, or maybe not.
I was thinking about this when i realized in certain maps i get 4% or 5% exp while in other maps i only get 1% or 2%, they have different pack size.
And pack % also affect quantity.
Only solution i see is to make to closed-in layouts bigger so they can have the same mobs % of other maps.
It would also make the levelling process more constant.
Just a thought

across the 100's of maps everyone runs, bad layouts vs good layouts don't really matter. can just skip over the ones you don't like (melee kind of needs the 1 path maps to avoid swarming)

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tdonov5#2743 wrote:

across the 100's of maps everyone runs, bad layouts vs good layouts don't really matter. can just skip over the ones you don't like (melee kind of needs the 1 path maps to avoid swarming)

Well they do matter when you are forced to do them, I don't want to chuck a bad map into a bad layout just to speedrun it so I can actually play the game when I'm juicing.

It doesn't matter to your playstyle of just plug and play but to people who juice content it is extremely tedious and causes a really bad sort of resentment towards doing this content that just builds over time and makes any time spent in these layouts a miserable chore.

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IILU81II#8410 wrote:

Crypt cant have same mob's pack % of blooming field or steppe, it would be a mess, or maybe not.
I was thinking about this when i realized in certain maps i get 4% or 5% exp while in other maps i only get 1% or 2%, they have different pack size.
And pack % also affect quantity.
Only solution i see is to make to closed-in layouts bigger so they can have the same mobs % of other maps.
It would also make the levelling process more constant.
Just a thought

Yeah that is basically what I am saying. They just need more open spots/ rooms, or interactions that spawn monsters.

On 90 quant the same rarity you will get like 90% less drops. Something like 20% less is a large and very noticeable amount, magnitudes less is just insanity. They are just too bad.