WAYSTONE RARITY NERF CONFIRMED!!! GOODBYE MAPPING!!!

Frame by frame analysis of the .3.0 release announcement video shows the exact values of the affixes that we saw, I've recorded what was shown for easy viewing.

Waystone Modifiers (Rarity & Quantity)

Tier 15 Rarity

14% Rarity - Player has 40% Less Recovery (ES & Life)

7% Rarity - Monsters gain 20% of Maximum Life as ES

14% Rarity - Monsters deal 29% of Damage as EXTRA CHAOS


Tier 1 Rarity

14% Rarity - Monsters deal 16% of damage as EXTRA COLD


Tier 15 Quantity

7% Quantity - Monsters have 77% Increased stun threshold

10% Quantity - 26% Increased Monster Damage

7% Quantity - Monsters Have 175% Increased stun buildup


Remember only 6 Affixes per waystones, and the chance of you getting only rarity affixes is EXTREMELY Low

Expect 21-35 Rarity on average

I don't know about anyone else but when I was still playing .2 I was so flooded with waystones I was world trashing them or not even picking them up because my stone tabs were full of them.

And I ran sekhemas more than I did maps.

So this doesn't seem like an issue to me.

/shrug

IIR/IIQ nerf on waystones is going to push even more people to having to stack towers (because not doing it is an illusion of choice, same as instilling your maps, or doing literally anything else in a game based on efficiency).

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Mitcho213#5116 wrote:

Frame by frame analysis of the .3.0 release announcement video shows the exact values of the affixes that we saw, I've recorded what was shown for easy viewing.

Expect 21-35 Rarity on average

those are all suffixes which previously GAVE NOTHING to map. So its net positive. And as result the magnitude of prefixes got nerfed a little to compensate. Now you won't be punished by RNG as much if you roll suffixes. Thats the whole idea behind the change, not some imaginary nerf

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Lilianda#8332 wrote:

those are all suffixes which previously GAVE NOTHING to map.

No.
Every affix now gives you a very small amount of either IIR/IIQ/pack size. Every single showcased map was 6 modded and had some combination of those mods that amounted to roughly ~50-55 (e.g. 30packsize,20IIQ; 30IIR/20IIQ etc.).

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Lilianda#8332 wrote:

So its net positive. And as result the magnitude of prefixes got nerfed a little to compensate. Now you won't be punished by RNG as much if you roll suffixes. Thats the whole idea behind the change, not some imaginary nerf

In 0.2 you could roll 80IIR/20IIQ/pack size maps that had NO DOWNSIDES and 3 more portals. Those values could also be fully buffed by the atlas passives and cleansed/corrupted zones, now (provided that's not also gone) those buffs apply to much smaller values.

That is a nerf, pure and simple.

I like that they tied more loot to more difficulty. Also there is now less randomness, so I don't have to buy waystones from AH or look at a dozen of them to get good loot increasing affixes.

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Meril#8494 wrote:

I like that they tied more loot to more difficulty. Also there is now less randomness, so I don't have to buy waystones from AH or look at a dozen of them to get good loot increasing affixes.

It would be okay if we were getting high rarity, but 20-30% does almost nothing for drops, plus thats if you roll anything that actually gives you rarity, same goes for quantity. The only possible upside is that way less currency should be entering the market overall leading to less inflation.
Plus people that have bots in their party to boost the team quant/rarity buff will be way further ahead in trade league than any regular player who is now way worse off.

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arandan#3174 wrote:

In 0.2 you could roll 80IIR/20IIQ/pack size maps that had NO DOWNSIDES and 3 more portals. Those values could also be fully buffed by the atlas passives and cleansed/corrupted zones, now (provided that's not also gone) those buffs apply to much smaller values.

That is a nerf, pure and simple.

I can't believe it but I'm going to miss omen crafting maps after this patch. My hope is that enough people see this and it gets buffed, but with the launch being so close it might be too late.

you guys are running maps without suffixes? And you still complain about gear and nerfs?