Partial Currency Trades

Does anyone know if GGG has said anything about being able to list items for partial currencies? There will be a massive market shift if something can't be listed for 1.5 divine, for example. Sellers will have to choose between selling for bulk lesser currency or pricing things differently than they would have previously. It's not a huge deal when speaking of 1 or 2 divine, but often even in the 10+ divine price range, you still might have an item listed for 10.5 divine, for example, based on the specific rolls.

I don't think it will be a huge issue, but I expect there will be subtle, unintended consequences from it. For example, there may be significantly more flipping on the currency exchange, causing a heftier gold sink than anticipated.

How would you determine what currency and how much is needed for the 0.5 divines? What if someone wanted to sell something for 1.5c? Seems like a hard problem to solve.

I could see something like letting sellers set multiple currencies for a trade like 1div and 50ex.

Could simply use the equivalent amount of another currency?

I dont trade much but how am i supposed to give you half a divine?

1 div = 200 ex

0.5 div = 100 ex

So if you want 1.5 div you list for 300 ex?

If you want 10.5 divs you list it for 2100 ex?

If it goes beyond inventory space then you list it in chaos with the same logic?

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Brophylicious#3004 wrote:

How would you determine what currency and how much is needed for the 0.5 divines? What if someone wanted to sell something for 1.5c? Seems like a hard problem to solve.

I could see something like letting sellers set multiple currencies for a trade like 1div and 50ex.

Chaos are cheap enough that you don't ever see .5 chaos. However, it is common to list items for partial divines. Grated, it might not be as common on PoE 2 as it is in PoE 1. Essentially, the buyer is expected to come up with an alternate currency equivalent to the partial divine, and then the buyer either excepts it or not. PoE 1 also has shards, so you can literally give half a divine in shards if the shards are in your inventory.

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IILU81II#8410 wrote:

Could simply use the equivalent amount of another currency?

I dont trade much but how am i supposed to give you half a divine?

1 div = 200 ex

0.5 div = 100 ex

So if you want 1.5 div you list for 300 ex?

If you want 10.5 divs you list it for 2100 ex?

If it goes beyond inventory space then you list it in chaos with the same logic?

You could, but the higher currencies are typically used in higher end trades. People listing something for 10+ div typically don't want 2k+ ex.

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Aldonés#1294 wrote:

You could, but the higher currencies are typically used in higher end trades. People listing something for 10+ div typically don't want 2k+ ex.

Fair enough but with the async trade will be impossible to use partial currency listings so you either go 10 divs or 11 divs or list your items in chaos/exalted/whatever if you want that 0.5 div.

With partial listings there would also be some minimal currency loss/gain too due to the fact that the exchange ratio constantly changes within a minute.

Partial currency listings are still possible tho in the old trade system, you list something for the equivalent of 10.5 divs and tell the buyer you want 10 divs and rest either ex or chaos.

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IILU81II#8410 wrote:

Partial currency listings are still possible tho in the old trade system, you list something for the equivalent of 10.5 divs and tell the buyer you want 10 divs and rest either ex or chaos.

I don't know if the website will recognize partial currency numbers anymore. As a player, you have the ability to accept what the buyer claims fills the number, but Ange will need the exact currency. I would consider it a bug if an item can be listed for trade that cannot be fulfilled by Ange.

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Aldonés#1294 wrote:

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IILU81II#8410 wrote:

Partial currency listings are still possible tho in the old trade system, you list something for the equivalent of 10.5 divs and tell the buyer you want 10 divs and rest either ex or chaos.

I don't know if the website will recognize partial currency numbers anymore. As a player, you have the ability to accept what the buyer claims fills the number, but Ange will need the exact currency. I would consider it a bug if an item can be listed for trade that cannot be fulfilled by Ange.

Uhm as far as i understood the use of Ange is only mandatory if you use merchant tabs.
The old trade system will still be up and running, so they wrote on the FAQ.

If you want to convert/buy merchant tabs then you'll have ange to manage tradings, if you dont you only need to set your tab public and do it the old way.
Unless i misunderstood it nothing prevents you from using both methods, problem is how many will stick to the old trade system.

From FAQ:
Will a free Merchant's Tab be provided to players?
No. However, the existing methods of trading will still be available.

I took that to mean player to player trade windows. I suppose they could make a trade filter to either show or not show non-asynchronous trading. There will be a very small market for sellers without merchant tabs and buyers wanting to forgo convince for gold savings, especially when those items will almost certainly be higher priced.

In the past I've made a pretty penny flipping between the currency exchange and bulk player to player trades. It's a massive gold sink though. That only worked because I'm selling in bulk to people who would rather pay more currency than farm up a couple hundred thousand gold.