How's New Syndicate Boss System consider "good" by Devs compared to old one?

I don't get it.

Done like 70-90x Safehouses of 80+ area level and not get a single Catarina fragment - is this a joke?

For old ones 70-90x safehouses i would get like 10x Boss fights - minimum - maybe even 15-20x - depending on how many times rank 3x Members are executed in Safehouses.

And now what is this?

Veiled orbs costs nothing , boss fragments don't drop at all - how this is a good Syndicate rework - seriously dudes?
Last bumped on Jun 24, 2025, 5:14:01 PM
I agree, the new system is extremely boring and unsatisfying. Even if you get the Catarina fight, that fight is changed so much that its way to easy and super boring and unrewarding. This change is, as usual when GGG changes change mechanics, a big L.
The fight wasn't really that hard to start, not sure why GGG changed it.
~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
The fight is just sad atm tbh, and not rewarding at all!
Not just the Cat fight. The lack of crafting recipes from the Syndicate membersis simply a step towards making the excellent POE crafting bench. become much weaker, thereby making the horrific POE2 crafting system not look as bad. Instead of trying to make POE2 more like POE1, they are doing the opposite, basically doubling down on their "Vision". This is a very bad sign for the game. My guess is that in a year POE1 will be on basically the same level as POE2, and not for the right reasons.
You are playing it wrong, ever since Jonathan in a Zizaran interview said "if players feel like they have to choose a particular something to achieve success, we fail out job", everything that GGG put in the game----and in POE2---- is the exact opposite, it's like he said that just to piss everyone off, you do not have any freedom in mechanics, there is a designed clear cut best way of doing things, and all the uniques are designed so niche they are useless for most builds but BIS for certain ones, everything is a cookie cutter, GGG is teaching us morons how to play their game which is a gift to humankind, be humble peasant.

Gripe out, now the knowledge you might need: this new syndicate has a new rule added, if you setup one of the faction with only two members one leader one follower, after you do the safehouse, the jailed faction leader automatically return to the old spot as the faction leader in one round. The logic I believe is "there will always be a leader and a follower in a faction in any given time" so when you have the old leader in jail, the game will correct that and reject the leader back to previous location, instead of 3 rounds you get it back right away. And that is how you farm Gravicius over and over again, there are other old rules of how to add intelligence fast to a faction leader thru rivalry and trust, for players that are familiar with those (I believe there are video guides on how to setup and run on youtube), you can have a gravicius fight every 3-4 maps, that is how you deal with this new syndicate system, not Catarina, Catarina is just a RNG random bonus, and I can assure you everyone who benefit from this mechanic right now is doing exactly that, setting up the 2/2/5/5 safehouse and farm gravicius over and over again with easy maps.
Last edited by TravisL#2218 on Jun 24, 2025, 11:13:52 AM
I've farmed betrayal since league launch and not seen one Catarina fight. Feels like there is no reason to farm it anymore. Veiled items aren't worth it. If more veiled chaos orbs dropped then perhaps, but considering I've literally farmed it trying to hit up a cat fight, I've found 7 of them. I know you get them in the safehouse fights, but they should drop in the encounters also.
You guys look way too experienced not to realise what GGG rework means. The moment I read the patch notes I knew I had to stay away from betrayal until reviewed.

It's a pity though, every new league hammers player's time hard in rotating aspects. I need around triple or more time to reach the same checkpoint of previous leagues.
I got 3 emblems in maybe 30ish safehouses. That felt about right but maybe I highrolled.

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info