Heist gold

Hi all .

I like run heist and meet a problem.

When i want sell bubble currency,fragment etc, to use the auction hause , is need gold,sometimes lots of gold .
And Heist is not full with it, even if you kill mobs.

So what do you think about , if the talisman "reward" is replaced with gold stash,and in Bleuprints the final rewards also can be one of the five is a gold stash with " x " amount gold,while some trash uniqe are go off from the reward list

I know go and leech xp,gold in party, but in my opinion ,for the trade problem it easy can help heist runner life , and do not make any big different for the economy.

Best regards

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I assume you know the amount of gold greatly depends on the amount of kills and map difficulty.
I guess the drop restriction of gold is an intentional design decision to set the default value of gold under their control.

In short, they don't want it to be like wisdom scroll.

I'm running every mods (50~80 quant) with Ice Shot miner except "no regen", "reflect damage" or something like "double HP boost, take reduced damage and enfeeble" where it's likely to have extremely tanky rare mob at every spawn point.
Before, I was only running blue or white contracts (0~30 quant) and yes I had issue with gold.

It's heist :)

The main thing here is run in ,take what we think have value ,and run out .

Mostly the heist runners sacrefice dps for defence and runspeed.

The concract and the bleuprints dont have increased value for the last item,the tresor item.

I tested a few times and even,if u spent times for kills, the mobs not gives gold, a lvl 83 map gold value its like a tier1 map gold value.

This is not enouht for uactions trades.

You choose to not doing something and unfortunately, that something is what gives you gold.
You don't ask heist reward by not doing heist, right ? You are like saying "I don't do Heist and why there is not heist reward for me ?" or "I don't kill mobs and why I'm not earning enough exp to level ?"

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>I tested a few times and even,if u spent times for kills, the mobs not gives gold, a lvl 83 map gold value its like a tier1 map gold value.

So you can try 1 juiced whatever tier map that gives better than 83 heist when ever you need gold. if you think the amount of gold drop is not good enough for you, then you may feedback about general gold drop rate.

No kill, no gold. You are not killing and you are not getting gold. This is how the gold is implemented in PoE.
"If you need gold, kill mobs. If you need gold explosion, kill juiced mobs." (and you cannot juice the heist like ordinary maps. This is very important game design for the current heist or labyrinth runs. Because of this "restricted game difficulty balance for restricted reward" design, we can earn "better rewards than ordinary play".)

If you ignore the game, the game ignores you. If you respect the game, the game respect you. This is how some things works, not necessarily everything but still this kind of "choose your reward" design exists.

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One of the thing in 83 Heist (not grand heist) is leveling after 98. It's much safer for same or even better exp rate than juicing ordinary map :)

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>do not make any big different for the economy.
Recombinator and shipment in Kingsmarch are big difference. If you don't know much about it, you better have a look. It can be very expensive and rewarding.

I said , even if i kill mobs ,let its rare, or other quality, the heist mobs, not give much gold.

I asked if it possible to chamge 1 of th ereward type to gold stash, in my example i said talisman reward change for gold.

Heist is as you see, a get stuff, and run out .
Yes you not kill tons , but even if you do the game not gives you gold much , in a normal rare map , you can get 5k-20k avarage. in heist its 1k ,if u kill nearly all possible mobs.

So u get a little from everything, and you can not sell these stuff, bc you cant trade, or u need use poe exchange, Tft if you want sell in bulk.

In grant heist, there are tons of uniqe rewards which nearly worth nothing, so to get the chance to get gold is (for me) a better reward than a x+1 useless nothing uniqe.

So i not choose to not kill mobs, simply in heist mobs give nothing.
A lvl 83 contract ,after full kills( after a time they give nothing) , i got 1500 gold around . Sometimes auction trade is 4-5k gold/item .

And btw i not talked about Settlers sailing or recombinator.
Personally i not used the recomb, but i used the settler camp a lot. Its fun 1 time to max it . Not fun the 4th time .this is why i tried sanctum and heist.
In sactum the trade not matter bc u get currency items mostly, but in heist u can get scarabs,essence, delve items, maps and so on . You can sell many things by trade,but bubble currency without gold income much harder.
And i dont think bc as you say i choose to not do , is a worth to cut of the trade totally.

Now it's clear that the root of the issue is not heist or gold but your trading strategy.

We don't need to juice everything to maximum possible and we cannot juice heist as much as ordinary maps.
You are not aiming for high quant in heist to kill mobs and 1.5k in average is too little to support the gold demand even if we don't trade.

I suggest you to spend your income to run actual juiced maps. I understand that 10k-20k gold average is easy and efficient when we don't feel like to be tryharding.

Nevermind

A heist char will never able to do juiced maps, some heist runner not even finish the camping, bc for what? In a fresh economy tft restart and we can use it.
And talisman reward still be will a nothing, like the other one hundred unworthy uniqe.

maybe i did wrong to try it a dead leuge, in the pohx priv lig, where no lots of party chance for leech or anything.

My options/suggestion make 1 part of the game a bit more fun/acceptable maybe more rewardable.

And for closing the issue, if u like play breach, anything and i say , hey go play something else, what would you say?

To increase the gold amount what you can get from heist mobs or make a choose able reward as gold(5k-10k) , not kill the economy.

best regards

You are relying on the "skip things" strategy and unfortunately skipped the mechanics around the gold. You got the reward for it.

You are not going to kill mobs in heist anyway so I understand it doesn't matter how dense the mobs could be (which is whole the point of killing mobs in heist).

Hi

I tryed it. Killed like 300mobs or more(at some points the heist mobs not drop anything). So i moved to the end and back slowly kill all possible mobs,all type(normal to uniqe) , killed a lots , and in final i got around 1500 gold. Thats not much . Thats all.

I thought you said we don't mean to stay longer to gain more in Heist and I agree with you.

I've been visiting Kingsmarch every after 4 Heist contracts in average to fill the disenchanter's stash and to send the new shipments. I think I usually have around 8~10k gold.

I can do 5~6 heists every 30 mins long shipment to Riben Fell but I keep 4 heists interval (every ~2 stash tabs of weapons, armours and jewelries to sort).

Edit
I got some 81 Heist/Grand Heist so I can try 2 different settings (minimum and maximum IIQ/IIR) and share the result here.

Just an overview of the survey for now. (1067 with Nenet was from an extremely bad layout, much less spawn points)


/kills chat command seems counting only legit kills in Heist.

Portal from unique contract does not close so I ran a "Breaking the Unbreakable" (Bunker map layout) 3 times.
1st: 84370 -> 84675, +1246 gold
2nd: -> 84695, 1313(+67) gold
3rd: -> 84695, 1313(+0) gold