Orb of chance translation in Russian client.

Please change "Orb of Chance" name in Russian language client on name "Сфера Шанса" not "Orb of Luck".
Why?
1. That is closer to developer vision of game.
2. I am Orthodox Christian, that is most popular religion in Russia, and Luck/Fortuna like we learn in our religion is a name of demon, i dont want to use orb whose name implies that it is under the power of this demon. Dont laught on me please atheists. Today i change client language from Russian on English and Thanks God here is normal orb name "Orb of Chance".
Ty.

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Why my topic moved from feedback about Path of Exile 2 early access to Path of Exile 1 feedback? That part of game so ancient and i am lost any hope to change in better side, other deal with new Path of Exile 2. Pls move my topic back to Path of Exile 2 feedback.

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MSparrow#7719 wrote:

Luck/Fortuna like we learn in our religion is a name of demon

I'm curious about this part.

I could see "Fortuna" being considered the name of a demon. After all, it appears as a demon in the SMT series--where demon is a broad classification, including beings that would be considered as gods or god-like from other religions, such as Thor and Izanagi.

However, things like Luck, Chance, and Fortune are words that refer to "random occurances". Are you unable to talk about unforeseeable events or outcomes without thinking you're referring to demons, or demonic influence?

Since I couldn't find one with a brief google search: can you provide a source that refers to a demon as having the name of Luck, rather than merely the existance of a "demon of luck"?

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seaman#4993 wrote:

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MSparrow#7719 wrote:

Dont laught on me please

It's very difficult.
Is that the only thing that confuses you about this game from the point of view of your religion?
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1.The Vaal Orb, and the entire Vaal nation, bear the name of an ancient pagan deity who is, in fact, a demon named Vaal from the pre-Christian era of the ancient Hebrews. This deity was worshipped with human sacrifices. The place where these sacrifices were performed later became a dumping ground established by a righteous Jewish king near the city. This dump was so vast that when it was set on fire due to its enormous size, it burned continuously. It was called Gehenna of Fire, which is where the concept of Gehenna of Fire originates—a place where all those who are unworthy of Christ will be sent after the Last Judgment. This belief is not only part of Orthodox Christianity but is shared by all Christians in general. But that is part of developer vision and i am dont want to change anything.

2. In the first part of the game Path of Exile, on the way to Dominus in Act 3, there is a location called The Sceptre of God in English. In Russian, however, this location is translated as "Перст Господень" (The Finger of the Lord). In this divine context, "Lord" refers specifically to the name of God from the Abrahamic religions, such as Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. It does not mean "The Sceptre of God," even though, within the game's lore, gods like Innocence and Sin could be considered deities in a more localized sense. I already typed about that part of localisation issue 2 years ago in same topic like you link but nothing changed so now i type about Orb of Luck here. Pls help.

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Jadian#0111 wrote:

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MSparrow#7719 wrote:

Luck/Fortuna like we learn in our religion is a name of demon

I'm curious about this part.

I could see "Fortuna" being considered the name of a demon. After all, it appears as a demon in the SMT series--where demon is a broad classification, including beings that would be considered as gods or god-like from other religions, such as Thor and Izanagi.

However, things like Luck, Chance, and Fortune are words that refer to "random occurances". Are you unable to talk about unforeseeable events or outcomes without thinking you're referring to demons, or demonic influence?

Since I couldn't find one with a brief google search: can you provide a source that refers to a demon as having the name of Luck, rather than merely the existance of a "demon of luck"?

Fortuna is the ancient Roman goddess of luck and the unpredictability of fate. She was equated with the ancient Greek Tyche, who is the deity of chance, the goddess of luck and fate. If you delve deeper into Christianity, particularly Orthodox Christianity, you will learn that all ancient Roman deities are considered demons within this tradition.

In the Christian tradition, there is no such concept as a random event dependent on fortune or luck, as everything depends on God. From my personal observation, when people say "I got lucky" or "it's luck" regarding some positive events in their lives, instead of saying "Glory to God for making this happen," the difference is fundamental. So, believe it or not, who else if not a demon could steal glory from God in the eyes of people?

Words from great pastor in Ortodox Church about luck, translate page in your browser please.
https://nevskiy-uni.ru/stat/164-udacha-eto-imya-besa.html
"LUCK IS THE NAME OF A DEMON. Be vigilant, wish each other well-being and God's help, not a demon! "I see that in some prayer lists, you have mentioned the demon Luck, writing: 'For the luck of my daughter,' 'For the luck of my son,' 'For the luck of my family.' Why have you written the devil into my prayer list?

Do you know who Luck was?
He was the greatest demon who claimed millions of souls. Moloch, or 'Luck,' was the god of happiness among the Romans, Sumerians, and Carthaginians.

What was this god Moloch, or 'Luck,' as we call him today? His statue, cast from bronze or silver, was carried on a two-wheeled cart.
At his back was a bronze furnace, and in front of him—a bronze pan; from behind, wood was thrown into Luck until the statue glowed red-hot. And his priests carried sharpened axes in their hands.

What kind of sacrifice did Luck accept?
Only infants from their mothers' arms. They would come to the village where you lived, dragging Luck's cart with the red-hot pan, and call out, clapping their hands: 'Whoever wants luck, bring a sacrifice to Luck!'

— Archimandrite Cleopa (Ilie)"

You can also ask DeepSeek "Why Fortuna and Luck is a name of a demon?".

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MSparrow#7719 wrote:

If you delve deeper into Christianity, particularly Orthodox Christianity, you will learn that all ancient Roman deities are considered demons within this tradition.

That is something I can understand. That wasn't where my question lay.

However, you seem to equate the mention of "Luck" with the demon "Fortuna". This seems like an unreasonable leap of logic. Neptune is the Roman god of the seas, and as you would see it, a demon. I doubt that Orthodox Christianity would condemn the seas as the realm of demons.

Similarly, the passage you linked+quoted in your post seems to be the only one which makes any link between Moloch and luck. It seems like modern scholars are also torn on whether an entity called Moloch ever existed, though they still recognize the links to sacrifices.





I will take it as a lesson that devout Orthodox Christians can view luck as taboo. While disagreeing with the how the message was conveyed, I have no real issue with the ideas behind the message.

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Jadian#0111 wrote:

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MSparrow#7719 wrote:

If you delve deeper into Christianity, particularly Orthodox Christianity, you will learn that all ancient Roman deities are considered demons within this tradition.

That is something I can understand. That wasn't where my question lay.

However, you seem to equate the mention of "Luck" with the demon "Fortuna". This seems like an unreasonable leap of logic. Neptune is the Roman god of the seas, and as you would see it, a demon. I doubt that Orthodox Christianity would condemn the seas as the realm of demons.

Similarly, the passage you linked+quoted in your post seems to be the only one which makes any link between Moloch and luck. It seems like modern scholars are also torn on whether an entity called Moloch ever existed, though they still recognize the links to sacrifices.





I will take it as a lesson that devout Orthodox Christians can view luck as taboo. While disagreeing with the how the message was conveyed, I have no real issue with the ideas behind the message.

My friend, I am not a theologian specializing in Orthodoxy and ancient pagan deities. I am just an ordinary Orthodox Christian who is also very far from perfect. What I said in the first message of this thread is the foundation of the entire discussion. As a believer, I know what I outlined in the first message, and I tried to explain it to the best of my ability. Nevertheless, even if I did not do it well, it remains relevant for Orthodox Christians. Therefore, you have drawn the right lesson from this dialogue. Please forgive my lack of education.

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