POE1 delays and new event miscommunication - lesson learned for GGG

I hope comunication about POE1 new development delay rapidly followed by new event announcement will be seriously analyzed by GGG for lessons learned. It was a disaster that could have been easily avoided just by bundling these two messages together. It took just a few days for popular feedback to switch from 'you liars, deliver what you promised, bring us a new league now!' to 'hey, this event is too short for 1M, make it 2M+, new league can wait a bit longer'

I also hope GGG has strategy in plance how to position and manage both games in their portfolio. I believe last months time and numerous situation (including the thread title one) demonstrated POE2 is not just a POE1 successor that will take over most of POE1 player base, leaving just a few orphans behind. While both can be used as switchovers for many players for the 'waiting for the new league' content, significant part of player base will prefer POE1. Not just because of still much more content or old habits - but just because the game you created (very fast paced, clear screens, power oriented) fits them better than the game you wanted to create (more skill oriented, slower paced, every drop counts). If I am right in my assessment, development strategy should also be adjusted - and POE1 should remain distinct from POE2 rather than pushed towards POE2 idea and be used as a POE2 idea sandbox (more complex boss fights, with invulnerability and one-shots, ruthless, ...)
Maybe POE1 offline P2P trade support should be brought back to the table. With zoom-zoom players preference economy based on TFT, bots, and no responding sellers, does not fit the profile
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PoE 2 was so unexpectedly popular for them that they probably thought they could put all their eggs in the PoE 2 basket. Can't really blame them.

One month will likely be ok for the event because there could be so much game-breaking stuff in the atlas relics. Triple the power of rogue exile nodes could mean an exponential scaling that results in Affliction-level loot.
I'm sure they will extend the event, they said if there was enough interest they would and there's nothing major preventing them from doing so.
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I'm sure they will extend the event, they said if there was enough interest they would and there's nothing major preventing them from doing so.


Hopefully I’m wrong, but my prediction was that it ends right before PoE2 0.2. My hope is that they leave it up until 3.26 though.
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I'm sure they will extend the event, they said if there was enough interest they would and there's nothing major preventing them from doing so.


Hopefully I’m wrong, but my prediction was that it ends right before PoE2 0.2. My hope is that they leave it up until 3.26 though.


This is my fear too.

Hopefully, enough players have made it clear that they want to play PoE 1 for them to extend the event until it either dries out, or 3.26 comes out. Personally, I have no interest in PoE 2, but even my neighbor's dead cat understands that PoE 2 has to be the main focus. Lets just hope that PoE 1 remains "a" focus.
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'Hope' is a keyword here. Delay-event communication fiasco showed GGG either badly misread signifiacant ratio of playerbase (customers)... or decided to wing it without thinking about possible backslash.
I hope they will consider it a warning signal, read numbers, and properly analyze them.
If meaningful number of POE2 players leave POE2 for POE1 event - these are ovelapping audiences, looking for new content, likely for return to POE2 when update pusblished, IF:
1. they are done with event content (pushing them off the event by premqture termination will not likely bring them to 'happy paying customer' status),
2. POE2 upgrade is meaningful enough.
Most POE1 leagues expire slowly about 6 weeks, with only most enthusiastic and more casual players grinding. I believe we need at least that much for this event to avoid premature terination feeling. That could be a decent placement time for POE2, with POE2 interested players already looking for new value proposition... and event termination for uninterested would be pointless.
However, that all relies on my feeling about numbers, outcomes, GGG analytical skills and decisions driven by company good.
We may also have situation when POE1 event may be terminated (too) early just to make sure players have no GGG alternative to POE2 upgrade, however unsatisfactory it would be to use infladed numbers to justify its launch success...
Last edited by xriegg#1341 on Feb 19, 2025, 12:32:23 PM
its going to be the new normal here every time some delay or rocky launch or lackluster league mechanic happens the POE1button crowd is going to fling poo at POE2 and any of the Dev's who are publicly visible targets because they are talking about 2 and not 1.

I have to say mob mentality is just exhausting and tedious to read over and over.

I too hope GGG learns from the sequence of events. But...

I think the timeline of Chris' exit as CEO (Jan 21) and The anger inducing POE1 news announcement (Jan 29) says SOMETHING.

Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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I think the timeline of Chris' exit as CEO (Jan 1) and The anger inducing POE1 news announcement (Jan 29) says SOMETHING.

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I think the timeline of Chris' exit as CEO (Jan 1) and The anger inducing POE1 news announcement (Jan 29) says SOMETHING.

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yeah I knew that I must have missed the 2 key.

I almost typed "8 days" which is the point of my post. 8 days before Johnathan pissed everyone off Chris exited. Its kinda suspect timing, especially given that the weird and sudden news/apology video was like a minute or two long and unlike any other news announcement GGG's ever done.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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Ok, call me cynical, but having a race event in POE2 start on March 2 is just salt in the wound for someone like me that hoped POE1 would have a month to shine. It feels like GGG did this POE2 event on purpose to take eyes off POE1 and back onto POE2.

Dang, reading the thread where GGG announced the POE2 race, GGG is getting majorly roasted and flamed for holding it so close to the POE1 event. People are legit asking if GGG is purposely trying to split the playerbase, or see which game people like more. Easily 80 percent of the posts are negative, either because of the timing, or because there's only a reward for the first player as each class to kill Dory.

So the question is, what now? Will the POE1 streamers get ready for the race instead of making POE1 content? Why, in the everloving world, did GGG make the two events so close to each other?
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