Fun fact: Behemoth is worse than no Ascendancy class Marauder (calculation here)

If I were to rationally choose a balanced offensive and defensive passive point combination, I would go with Tireless Frenzy and Sheer Fury.

This would provide:

1000 Rampage = 100% increased damage
+10 Fortify
+15 Rage
For comparison, a typical level 95 melee character can usually get around:

700% increased damage from the passive tree
21 Fortify
45-50 Rage
So, Behemoth would effectively give you:

14% more × 10% more damage
12% increased defense

And we also save 5 passive points by not investing in the Fortify cluster, that could provide about 10-15% more damage.



If we could use spells, we would have access to: Pride, Flesh and Stone, blood and sand. And these aura and reservation gems will provide more than all stats Behemoth can provide.



Pride: 39% more phys damage
Flesh and stone: 19% less damage
Blood and sand: 15% more aoe damage

Wow that's already far better than Behemoth, I even not mention Vulnerability for another 20-30% more, blood rage for about 12-15% more and Molten shield for atleast 2K shield.


Conclusion: you are actually stronger without Ascendancy than with a fully unlocked Behemoth.

What a dogshit Ascendancy.

but dont forget if we double down and use gruthkul pelt since both have the same penalty we get HUGE boost to our flat hp/regen and phys damage!

/s

BEHEMOTH NEED ADRENALINE, NOT CHAR SIZE PLZ

i can't believe they haven't fixed such an egregious design mistake, despite the community trying to communicate

oh wait...

Even if it gave perma adrenaline and 1000 rampage stacks all the time it wouldnt compensate for no blink skill. You are stuck living in regular maps without a blink.

and if you use multistrike its even more toxic without frostblink

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exsea#1724 wrote:

but dont forget if we double down and use gruthkul pelt since both have the same penalty we get HUGE boost to our flat hp/regen and phys damage!

/s

I assume this post is satire

Do you have a pob without phys taken as and big armour on the chest that looks pretty good?
Along with no auras.

If you're defending it, post the pob. If its satire, ignore my post.

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Lonnie455Rich#2087 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

but dont forget if we double down and use gruthkul pelt since both have the same penalty we get HUGE boost to our flat hp/regen and phys damage!

/s

I assume this post is satire

Do you have a pob without phys taken as and big armour on the chest that looks pretty good?
Along with no auras.

If you're defending it, post the pob. If its satire, ignore my post.

/s for sarcasm/satire

the loss of pride alone is huge. not being able to use dash/movement skills is huge too

If they change the parameter on the first node to what Ziz said

"Your spells do no damage"

Think it would be fine.

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exsea#1724 wrote:

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Lonnie455Rich#2087 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

but dont forget if we double down and use gruthkul pelt since both have the same penalty we get HUGE boost to our flat hp/regen and phys damage!

/s

I assume this post is satire

Do you have a pob without phys taken as and big armour on the chest that looks pretty good?
Along with no auras.

If you're defending it, post the pob. If its satire, ignore my post.

/s for sarcasm/satire

the loss of pride alone is huge. not being able to use dash/movement skills is huge too

I thought /s means just saying. my bad.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

If they change the parameter on the first node to what Ziz said

"Your spells do no damage"

Think it would be fine.

+10000

currently i m so disappointed about this that even if GGG does make the change its still disappointing.

do we need streamers to point out things that forummers have already pointed out ages ago?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1854046

this is a thread from 2017 ffs