New Endgame System Is A Breath of Fresh Air

I like the atlas tree as much as everyone else, but after so many years of Siege of The Atlas I'm really looking forward to a new way to progress endgame. Familiarity and comfort breeds complacency, and I would put myself in the category of people who are looking for a new challenge. Having one foot in tradition and another exploring new territory sounds like a lot of fun. Ultimately, people can just pass on the event if it doesn't excite them. I don't see this as a betrayal like some people are saying, but more so GGG's commitment to continually improve their game by exploring new ideas and trying to innovate to better serve their player base.

This isnt GGG imprvoing their game or innovating anything,its garbage "endgame" like PoE 2.

While it may be a cool idea, it seems like an insane thing to test during a 1-month event.

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Zecalo#5575 wrote:

This isnt GGG imprvoing their game or innovating anything,its garbage "endgame" like PoE 2.

Did they state that their goal is to innovate or improve? lol

It's just a mere test and a bone-throw to us PoE1 enjoyers, why are you so mad?

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shadowthedead#5607 wrote:

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Zecalo#5575 wrote:

This isnt GGG imprvoing their game or innovating anything,its garbage "endgame" like PoE 2.

Did they state that their goal is to innovate or improve? lol

It's just a mere test and a bone-throw to us PoE1 enjoyers, why are you so mad?

I was replying to OP claims,did you even read it?Or just saw what you wanted and run with it?also why do you think I would be mad?Just calling it for what it is.

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TempestMind#6309 wrote:

I like the atlas tree as much as everyone else, but after so many years of Siege of The Atlas I'm really looking forward to a new way to progress endgame. Familiarity and comfort breeds complacency, and I would put myself in the category of people who are looking for a new challenge. Having one foot in tradition and another exploring new territory sounds like a lot of fun. Ultimately, people can just pass on the event if it doesn't excite them. I don't see this as a betrayal like some people are saying, but more so GGG's commitment to continually improve their game by exploring new ideas and trying to innovate to better serve their player base.

Same. I got mega hyped when I saw the announcement. If the relics are rare or the good mods are rare or they pre-nerf all the good mods I will rage and join the chorus of doomposting but for now I'm cautiously optimistic.

I won't complain about a fresh mini league but that map device looks like alpha/beta testing poe2 content. For reference their poe2 vision/innovation seems to follow these guidelines:

1. less determinism more rng.
2. more intuitive systems that don't require 3rd party apps or 30 min youtube tutorials.
3. adds tradeable commodity because as we all know the game is only good because of trading.

It's funny how point three is vastly overlooked. This game would not hold half the players if there was no trade, as no one would ever get anything but eh same old garbage uniques that drop like candy.

heh.

you realize this relic system is 100x times worse than atlas tree? you will find less content now in your maps this relic system is inferior in every way than atlas they only added it for the sake of "something new"

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Deviant#8289 wrote:

you realize this relic system is 100x times worse than atlas tree? you will find less content now in your maps this relic system is inferior in every way than atlas they only added it for the sake of "something new"

How do you know? Have you seen the mod pool and tuning values for the new relics? Have you investigated that system at all?

Or, just like everyone else, are you simply used to extracting maximum currency for minimum fun from the current Atlas Tree and are upset you'll have to relearn how to generate a thousand divines an hour again?

The Atlas passive tree is too restrictive. You make a decision about what content to do ONCE - ONE TIME - at the beginning of a league, and then you're Locked In Forever. If you make a new build that wants to do different content, or decide the content you're doing doesn't thrill you anymore, tough.
You're stuck, and you have to wait until a new league drops or spend a few dozen divines laboriously respeccing the Atlas tree, which almost nobody in the game actually has the currency to do.

GGG realized this themselves and partially alleviated the problem by giving people two additional copies of the passive tree, but this simply delays the problem rather than solving it. This relic system means being able to choose what you specialize in as you progress, as well as being able to change that choice without cost or issue whenever you like. It's far more modular and configurable, and we have no idea yet if it has similar, lesser, or greater specificity and power. If notable modifiers that change the nature of content are still available - as well as the modifiers that turn certain things off altgoether - is anything really being lost?

We'll have to find out. Frankly, a "Both" situation may well work best, with a smaller, stripped-down passive tree more akin to PoE2's initial systems offering the behavior-changing modifiers while Relics are used to tune and balance the purely numerical junk. Who knows - but being a doomer yaybo about it helps nobody.