Dead in the water

I'm having a hard time understanding how adding a modifier to a bow can render it useless until I'm 20 lvls higher than I currently am, I literally paid for this bow and and while it was the best thing I had, I felt I had no choice but to upgrade it to beat a boss 4 lvls below myself, and now it's useless... I was already struggling, but now im dead in the water. Great job GGG. There should be a better balance between our bad decisions and your bad decisions

Honestly, this really is just a skill issue. You not knowing the possible mod rolls for its ilvl, is a skill issue. You exalting an item not knowing that, is a skill issue. This was no one's fault but your own. That's like using Corrupting Altar on a weapon you are using and then acting surprised that it got bricked in the process, then going on the forums to make a complaint post to throw around blame, never once looking in the mirror. Don't exalt items you are using unless you know what you are doing.

What is the point of being able to upgrade beyond your level? To say i sand to say I should automatically know that you can upgrade items to the point you can't that you can't even use the item, is very odd. Surely I didn't miss all this in the description of an exhaust. And if it is clearly written then my apologies, I should have thoroughly schooled myself before even trying to play.

you learn thru trial and error just like everyone else did..... Like to anyone who's played POE1 we would know this and it's not even something we would think about to explain to someone. It's just one of those things you understand about the game but don't really think about. Yeah the game doesn't hold your hand and all the systems are overwhelming to new people. I always tell ppl POE is basically like taking college courses if you want to understand everything. It's only going to get more complicated as more of the systems are introduced and leagues are thrown on top of them.

The mods that items can have are based on the ilvl. Now you know.

I don't know how they would do this but GGG just needs to get rid of the levels showing visually--it is a pitfall!

I mean we have a meme now for Elon complaining about his gear ilevel.

If you learn anything from this game LEVEL of mobs and items "hardly" matter.


At level 100 everything is lower level than you and always will be at that point, but it will still kill you.

I "crafted" (orb gambled) a mirror tier xbow and its ilevel is only 59. The damn thing has more dps than any xbow on the trade site. I got super lucky because it is better to craft on a higher item base but it doesn't mean you can't make a crazy dps weapon at lower levels (it just is very unlikely and eventually someone will make something better with a higher ilvl).

Hang in there! we are all going through this together.

This isn't something a new player is going to inherently understand but the affix tiers that an item can have are limited by the item level of the item.

If you find a bow that is item level 2 - there is a very limited pool of mods that can roll on it. Conversely, an item level 80 bow can roll almost every tier of affix.

The required equip level is set by the highest tier affix on the item (or the level of the white base item, whichever is higher). It is possible to have a high item level piece of gear with all low tier affixes (allowing a low level character to equip it). But if you add an affix it will roll from all possible tiers set by the item level--and in your case, add a high tier affix; raising the minimum level requirement to equip.

Is it unfair that you didn't know that? Maybe, but that kind of bamboozle is equally applicable to all players when they begin to play this game. And now that it has happened to you, you're not likely to have this happen to you again. So you gain valuable knowledge about something in this game that you can use going forward. This is how people learn to play games. PoE is too large to be tought everything upfront. Prepare to learn as you go.

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Felcoreous#7450 wrote:

I "crafted" (orb gambled) a mirror tier xbow and its ilevel is only 59. The damn thing has more dps than any xbow on the trade site. I got super lucky because it is better to craft on a higher item base but it doesn't mean you can't make a crazy dps weapon at lower levels (it just is very unlikely and eventually someone will make something better with a higher ilvl).

I might be nitpicky here. But this is a very important distinction so sorry if you just mistyped.

If the crossbow really is good, then the ilevel cannot be 59. You are then talking about the required level to equip this crossbow. The item level dictates what affixes can be rolled on an item. Higher tier affixes need a higher item level. With only item level 59 you would be missing the strongest 2-3 tiers of damage affixes.

The item level can be seen by pressing the "show dropped item" hotkey, default I think is ALT, while hovering over the item.