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I'm sure a lot of people have heard about the Optiscaler Frame Generation mod. I'm having horrendous FPS issues with the game (3070, Ryzen 5 5600H) and this could potentially help a lot, if it doesn't bring a ton of input lag (haven't tested). I imagine this could also help a ton with handhelds like the ROG Ally etc.
But, like the mod creator warns, it's unclear if using this is a-ok with GGG.
I don't suppose there has been any official response regarding this? Has there been any history of banning similar things before? (Also, if anyone's tried it, how's the input lag situation?)
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Posted byDropbear#2037on Jan 16, 2025, 5:19:14 PM
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Have you tried Lossless Scaling?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/
That will never be bannable because it doesn't mod/'hook' into the game.
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Posted bykcthebrewer#1298on Jan 16, 2025, 7:56:31 PM
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Have you tried Lossless Scaling?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/
That will never be bannable because it doesn't mod/'hook' into the game.
I did, yeah; 35 -> 70 worked great visually, I couldn't make out any artifacts etc, but the input lag was too much (felt worse than just playing at 35fps). For some reason, Lossless Scaling has a magic base FPS value around 36 for me, and if I go even 1 FPS above that (for instance 40 -> 80), the image quality drops dramatically & gets all kinds of ghosting and afterimages.
A friend thought Optiscaler might have less lag since it hooks into the .dll.
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Posted byDropbear#2037on Jan 16, 2025, 8:03:07 PM
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Have you tried Lossless Scaling?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/
That will never be bannable because it doesn't mod/'hook' into the game.
I did, yeah; 35 -> 70 worked great visually, I couldn't make out any artifacts etc, but the input lag was too much (felt worse than just playing at 35fps). For some reason, Lossless Scaling has a magic base FPS value around 36 for me, and if I go even 1 FPS above that (for instance 40 -> 80), the image quality drops dramatically & gets all kinds of ghosting and afterimages.
A friend thought Optiscaler might have less lag since it hooks into the .dll.
yeah anything that messes with game files will be a no go even if it just effects visuals....
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Posted bybaconbyte#0146on Jan 16, 2025, 8:13:06 PM
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Have you tried Lossless Scaling?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/
That will never be bannable because it doesn't mod/'hook' into the game.
I did, yeah; 35 -> 70 worked great visually, I couldn't make out any artifacts etc, but the input lag was too much (felt worse than just playing at 35fps). For some reason, Lossless Scaling has a magic base FPS value around 36 for me, and if I go even 1 FPS above that (for instance 40 -> 80), the image quality drops dramatically & gets all kinds of ghosting and afterimages.
A friend thought Optiscaler might have less lag since it hooks into the .dll.
yeah anything that messes with game files will be a no go even if it just effects visuals....
Source? Reshade hooks into the same files and it's been announced to be OK before.
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Posted byDropbear#2037on Jan 16, 2025, 8:17:31 PM
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Nah you can't use reshade either.....
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Posted bybaconbyte#0146on Jan 16, 2025, 8:18:37 PM
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Nah you can't use reshade either.....
Again, do you have a source?
Bex says he's "pretty sure they're okay" here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5dnknj/comment/da6cbuy/?context=1
It would be nice to know if Optiscaler falls into the same category (& get an official clarification of that in general).
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Posted byDropbear#2037on Jan 16, 2025, 8:19:22 PM
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THE FUCKING TERMS OF SERVICE.....
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=path+of+exile+terms+of+service&l=1
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7. Restrictions: Under no circumstances, without the prior written approval of Grinding Gear Games, may you:
a. Adapt, reproduce, store, distribute, print, display, publish or create derivative works from any part of the Website, Materials or Services other than in accordance with the Licence.
b. Modify or adapt (including through third parties and third-party tools) the game client or its data, other than in the normal course of PoE gameplay as permitted in accordance with the Licence.
c. Utilise any automated software or 'bots' in relation to your access or use of the Website, Materials or Services.
d. Knowingly perform any actions that may cause the computers used to support the Website, Materials and Services (the "Servers") to become overloaded or crash.
e. Connect to the Servers through any software other than the authorised game client software.
f. Use any data gathering and extraction tools or software to extract information from the Website or utilize framing techniques to enclose any of the contents of the Website.
g. Use any meta tags or other hidden text which incorporate Grinding Gear Games’ name or any of its intellectual property including trade marks.
h. Perform in-game services during your use of the Website, Materials or Services for any form of compensation outside of PoE.
i. Reverse engineer, de-compile or disassemble the Website, Materials or Services or seek to establish the technical processes, operations and communication protocols of the Website, Materials or Services through any means, including without limitation by reference to the input or output of the Website, Materials or Services or the internal structure and workings of the Website, Materials or Services.
Like do you really need someone to clarify what NO modifying game/adapting files thru 3rd party tools means Last edited by baconbyte#0146 on Jan 16, 2025, 8:35:52 PM
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Posted bybaconbyte#0146on Jan 16, 2025, 8:34:32 PM
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THE FUCKING TERMS OF SERVICE.....
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=path+of+exile+terms+of+service&l=1
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7. Restrictions: Under no circumstances, without the prior written approval of Grinding Gear Games, may you:
a. Adapt, reproduce, store, distribute, print, display, publish or create derivative works from any part of the Website, Materials or Services other than in accordance with the Licence.
b. Modify or adapt (including through third parties and third-party tools) the game client or its data, other than in the normal course of PoE gameplay as permitted in accordance with the Licence.
c. Utilise any automated software or 'bots' in relation to your access or use of the Website, Materials or Services.
d. Knowingly perform any actions that may cause the computers used to support the Website, Materials and Services (the "Servers") to become overloaded or crash.
e. Connect to the Servers through any software other than the authorised game client software.
f. Use any data gathering and extraction tools or software to extract information from the Website or utilize framing techniques to enclose any of the contents of the Website.
g. Use any meta tags or other hidden text which incorporate Grinding Gear Games’ name or any of its intellectual property including trade marks.
h. Perform in-game services during your use of the Website, Materials or Services for any form of compensation outside of PoE.
i. Reverse engineer, de-compile or disassemble the Website, Materials or Services or seek to establish the technical processes, operations and communication protocols of the Website, Materials or Services through any means, including without limitation by reference to the input or output of the Website, Materials or Services or the internal structure and workings of the Website, Materials or Services.
Like do you really need someone to clarify what NO modifying game/adapting files thru 3rd party tools means
I do, when the company employees have specified Reshade to be okay ("without the prior written approval" in your own quote), and people have been using it for close to a decade? What's with the rage? O_o
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Posted byDropbear#2037on Jan 16, 2025, 8:37:53 PM
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people have been getting banned for using it. bex doesn't even work for POE anymore and they they didn't say it was ok they didn't know. Like i don't care what you do, but they even had problems when ppl were removing soundfiles cause it was causing lag long ago.
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Posted bybaconbyte#0146on Jan 16, 2025, 8:42:53 PM
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