Does PoE greatly benefit from a CPU's 3D V-Cache?

I was one of the fortunate who wasn't having issues with my Intel i7-13700K, but recently it seems to be showing signs of first problems, i.e. random shutdowns and weird stuttering.

I'm considering "upgrading" to the Ryzen 9800X3D because I expect the extra cache to last me a few more years in gaming down the line.

Though now I'm left wondering if PoE is one of those games where the extra cache would make a major difference? No reviewer is testing this game and never has, at least not to my knowledge, so I have exactly zero references I could use.

Because if not, then I'd just accept a direct replacement from the retailer. 🤔
Gaming PC: Win 11, R7 7600X3D, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30, 7000 MB/s SSD, 4k120
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Workstation PC: Win 11, i5-12400, RTX 3060, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36, 2500 MB/s SSD, 1080p60
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I guess it took me less time to find some posts on reddit related to your question, than you spent writing this thread :DDD

Just use google man, "poe 3d cache"
Yeah, every CPU bound game gets huge impact with increase of 3d cache, so it's highly recommended to look into it
Absolutely.
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ashyratv wrote:
I guess it took me less time to find some posts on reddit related to your question, than you spent writing this thread :DDD

Just use google man, "poe 3d cache"


No need for the condescension, dude. I was looking for a technical answer and not for random hear-say benchmark claims from random reddit users. There's a large variance from setup to setup and build to build. I was hoping for someone more technically literate to chime in.

And the game hasn't been CPU-bound in quite some time. The technical update was like 2 years ago, or maybe 3 by now. That term is also misleading anyway.
Gaming PC: Win 11, R7 7600X3D, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30, 7000 MB/s SSD, 4k120
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Workstation PC: Win 11, i5-12400, RTX 3060, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36, 2500 MB/s SSD, 1080p60
Last edited by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on Nov 7, 2024, 5:58:03 PM
5800x3d and a 3070 here. max settings at 1440p reliably over 100 fps, though the GPU is what sits at 100% usage, not the CPU.
In short, it's less to do with specifically the 3D V-cache itself and the fact that there is so much of it. Any program must cache certain amounts of data in the caches within the processor itself. For a game like PoE, which is heavily cache reliant, performance increases as the cache increases more effectively than by boosting cpu frequency. TL;DR: AMD X3D CPUs often are better at gaming because they have a superior method of caching data and size of said cache.
Yes, the 9800X3D should be the best CPU for playing PoE right now.
And since PoE uses AVX instructions, AMD CPUs should have a slight advantage, since most intel CPUs have an AVX offset in BIOS (like throttling the frequency slightly) when running AVX instructions, while AMDs don't.
Thanks, guys. I'll build another CWDT toon should I get my hands on a 9800X3D in time. Given my experience with those builds, I won't need to run strict benchmarks for them, I'd be able to tell right away. Cheers.
Gaming PC: Win 11, R7 7600X3D, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30, 7000 MB/s SSD, 4k120
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Workstation PC: Win 11, i5-12400, RTX 3060, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36, 2500 MB/s SSD, 1080p60
You won't benefit from any new hardware while the game is experiencing a catastropic failure.

If you're thinking about playing on Console: Don't.
It'd be nice to not hard freeze. Just saying. YES I AM INSANE, ZANA! :>
Last edited by bvanharjr#5617 on Nov 7, 2024, 6:54:11 PM
Update:

I've now gotten a full refund for the 13700K and am/was playing on an i5-12400 in the meantime. I made a short video describing my experiences. Performance in 4k was mostly fine, even with my absolute screen cancer build.

Still, I already initiated a return for the 12400, as I now ordered a Ryzen 7600X3D. Crazy good FPS per Watt and upgrade path with AM5.

The Ryzen 9800X3Ds are sold out everywhere, are actively being scalped for almost double, and the price for pre-orders is climbing almost daily.

Will report back when I've playtested it.
Gaming PC: Win 11, R7 7600X3D, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30, 7000 MB/s SSD, 4k120
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Workstation PC: Win 11, i5-12400, RTX 3060, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36, 2500 MB/s SSD, 1080p60

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