Did they finally kill RF?

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Aynix wrote:

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Gopstop22 wrote:

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Orbitalx wrote:

Here is a decent POB for new RF posted from pohx viewer.

https://pobb.in/2x7CZy6X_9_y

Just make sure you update your POB or else the RF calc will be wrong. Pretty SSF friendly too.

Turn on Vaal RF for 7.2 million map boss dps :)

that will be 200 divines sir

If you pay 200 divines for such gear people scam you left and right. Poor soul.

i didnt even look at pob i just assumed it was 200 divines+ 99% of people who post pobs of high dps and say its budget friendly usually have put mirror tier items on pob

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Magenta_Blue wrote:

What do you guys think about RF in combination with the new transfigured burning arrow gem that scales with life, and would that be an alternative to fire trap?(I personally hate FT with RF lol)

maybe. an issue I foresee is that you're giving up a shield and it's + max res while also increasing the damage taken from RF by scaling life. so you'd need to find additional sources of life regen and max res as they're even more important here.

not to mention the loss of QoL from not being able to use shield charge. it could deal a lot of damage but will it feel good to play?

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roundishcap wrote:

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Orbitalx wrote:

Here is a decent POB for new RF posted from pohx viewer.

https://pobb.in/2x7CZy6X_9_y

Just make sure you update your POB or else the RF calc will be wrong. Pretty SSF friendly too.

Turn on Vaal RF for 7.2 million map boss dps :)

That is an expensive ass build btw.

4 pretty rare jewels, tons of t3-t1 mod rolls, the right incursion mods, mostly awakened support gems, 21/20 determination/petrified with enlighten. Forgetting to subtract the -6 life per player level from warlock, and a whole extra curse this build cannot use.

Congrats, removing the awakened gems, the enlighten, the extra curse and you have 1.2 million dps. And I am sure I missed all sort of other weird things in this pob.

Not a bad attempt, but this is so much weaker on the same budget as a gem level stacking RF. As we lose gem levels, Fire trap does less and less and less damage.

The -6 life from warlock is calculated under custom modifiers. The gear is not that crazy to get. It is a level 100 build so by the time you are level 100 you should have most of this gear crafted yourself in SSF. You can farm enlighten in crimson temple or possibly the new rewards from lab. What extra curse? I only see flammability? You can can farm awakened gems if you run your maps with maven and altas geared towards maven. This one I will give you though since that might be hard to get the exact awakened gems you want.

Also everyone's build is going to be different. This is just a POB showing what is possible. You can also play this in trade league and buy crazy shit and make it even better. Anyways, RF is still playable, people just want to bitch. I will admit this build probably won't scale as well as gem stacking JUgg or inquis. If you want to go crazy with spending money on RF you can go ivory tower and stack crazy ES. There are already players last league with like 40k ES RF builds. Those builds got crazy buffed btw.

TBH they should just get rid of all autobombers. Min Maxing only 1 skill is bad enough. All RPG's should aim for multiple skill use, for a 2011 game. D2 or not. Evolve.

That's why the devs should study 3vs3 Lost Ark Pvp even if that game's p2w and questing was terrible, the pvp skills were good.

Even Asmongolds ward loop people thought was sweet for 2 minutes, then everyone was like " what's the point of this, a mobile phone auto walker game? " no thanks.

For RF 2 Ascendaries or not, still saw too many people using RF.

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RuneLuthien wrote:

That's why the devs should study 3vs3 Lost Ark Pvp even if that game's p2w and questing was terrible, the pvp skills were good.

No pvp in this game was absolutely terrible and you know it. People only endured the trash for the decent rewards before they nerfed them.

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Even Asmongolds ward loop people thought was sweet for 2 minutes, then everyone was like " what's the point of this, a mobile phone auto walker game? " no thanks.

His build? Sounds like someone's never seen ward loop before hoho

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RuneLuthien wrote:

TBH they should just get rid of all autobombers. Min Maxing only 1 skill is bad enough. All RPG's should aim for multiple skill use, for a 2011 game. D2 or not. Evolve.

That's why the devs should study 3vs3 Lost Ark Pvp even if that game's p2w and questing was terrible, the pvp skills were good.

Even Asmongolds ward loop people thought was sweet for 2 minutes, then everyone was like " what's the point of this, a mobile phone auto walker game? " no thanks.

For RF 2 Ascendaries or not, still saw too many people using RF.

Both autobomber and wardloop are fine in GGG eyes because: Autobomber is squishy af, you pretty much are oneshoted by any random projectile you didnt dodge. Wardlopp is expensive af. So those two "afk" builds are fine. However RF was cheap af + was tanky on top of that. In addition to that, they mentioned multiple times thath they didnt make RF as a DMG skill, it was supposed to be buffer skill for caster. So yea, the only suprise is that it took them so long to change the skill.

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Aynix wrote:

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RuneLuthien wrote:

TBH they should just get rid of all autobombers. Min Maxing only 1 skill is bad enough. All RPG's should aim for multiple skill use, for a 2011 game. D2 or not. Evolve.

That's why the devs should study 3vs3 Lost Ark Pvp even if that game's p2w and questing was terrible, the pvp skills were good.

Even Asmongolds ward loop people thought was sweet for 2 minutes, then everyone was like " what's the point of this, a mobile phone auto walker game? " no thanks.

For RF 2 Ascendaries or not, still saw too many people using RF.

Both autobomber and wardloop are fine in GGG eyes because: Autobomber is squishy af, you pretty much are oneshoted by any random projectile you didnt dodge. Wardlopp is expensive af. So those two "afk" builds are fine. However RF was cheap af + was tanky on top of that. In addition to that, they mentioned multiple times thath they didnt make RF as a DMG skill, it was supposed to be buffer skill for caster. So yea, the only suprise is that it took them so long to change the skill.

rf wasnt cheap at all and had low dmg and was just solid mapper if you wanted high dmg you would need invest 200divines+

Dude, it was one of the cheapest builds in existence. Thats why it was one of most popular leaguestarter for past 3 years.

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Aynix wrote:

Dude, it was one of the cheapest builds in existence. Thats why it was one of most popular leaguestarter for past 3 years.

you clearly havent played RF it had LOW DAMAGE unless you invested 200 divines in it yes you could get 1m rf dps and be unkillable in maps what about it? if it took you do them 5 minutes it was super popular only becuz pohx made it popular not becuz it was op

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Aynix wrote:

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RuneLuthien wrote:

TBH they should just get rid of all autobombers. Min Maxing only 1 skill is bad enough. All RPG's should aim for multiple skill use, for a 2011 game. D2 or not. Evolve.

That's why the devs should study 3vs3 Lost Ark Pvp even if that game's p2w and questing was terrible, the pvp skills were good.

Even Asmongolds ward loop people thought was sweet for 2 minutes, then everyone was like " what's the point of this, a mobile phone auto walker game? " no thanks.

For RF 2 Ascendaries or not, still saw too many people using RF.

Both autobomber and wardloop are fine in GGG eyes because: Autobomber is squishy af, you pretty much are oneshoted by any random projectile you didnt dodge. Wardlopp is expensive af. So those two "afk" builds are fine. However RF was cheap af + was tanky on top of that. In addition to that, they mentioned multiple times thath they didnt make RF as a DMG skill, it was supposed to be buffer skill for caster. So yea, the only suprise is that it took them so long to change the skill.

so in other words you have a wordy excuse ready for any 1 button afk skill in the game that isn't RF.