"Experience"...

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3070202

I wonder, how do people even get all this work experience, if everyone hiring always already expects them have experience? Oh right, unpaid internships... *cough* 'socially sanctioned slavery'. -_-

It's pretty standard these days to demand experience and automatically decline everyone that has yet to set foot on the terrain they want to work on. This clearly distinguishes concerns and the like that are profit-only from others that also hire more inexperienced people and give them an actual chance to prove themselves. It's a "safe bet" in a sense, yet I can't say how many applicants there will be that both have experience in their area of work AND have deep knowledge of the game.

That's how I see it. I may be wrong. Maybe I'm not. But anyways, it tells a lot about the company.

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LibraExAnima wrote:

I can't say how many applicants there will be that both have experience in their area of work AND have deep knowledge of the game.

I wasn't just making a dig at GGG. I was speaking more generally. As you say, this is standard practice. That doesn't make it any less bs that almost all JD's do it. Except for intern roles, ofc. No gamble there, as they work for free. -_-

Was expecting more Jimi, to be fair.

The indirect alternative to unpaid internship is volunteerism, where you are still a drudge, but may have slightly more support and autonomy/scope of practice, because the organization that relies on volunteers nominally acknowledges that it is voluntary.

This isn't true of all organizations, and some are fishbowls for grads in professional training programs, where they curate the volunteer experience very carefully while becoming more and more dependent on a steady supply of slave labour.

A good example is health professions training programs requiring proof of clinical experience on the application. A glut of pre-meds and nursing students desperate for quantitative clinical face-time line up at hospitals and clinics for a limited number of unpaid, OSHA-vetted, temporary patient-facing assignments.

While it's still voluntary, the program is structured to maximize the number of potential allied-health-professions applicant spots to satisfy training programs and keep internal departments happy and well-supplied with cheap labour.

I would imagine other professional colleges do pretty much the same thing with applicants and their extended network of alumni and corporate sponsors. Basically at the point where the volunteerism is "required" for further study, it's crossed the line into internships.

The government is probably the worst offender, as government positions are smokescreened behind years of "experience" that's usually protracted, unpaid, and has no particular requirement to put you in a role close to what you want to do for a living. Interested in environmental law? Your county or province might require 3-5 years of experience in civic affairs, but 90% of the apprenticeships and clerkships are paper hell somewhere in Transportation or (insert PoE joke here) Intervention.

You'd probably learn more about environmental law working at the city dump or on a deep sea fishing vessel - cause that's where you'll butt heads with government, every time, all the time.

it sucks that we live in a small globalized world and have to compete with roughly 4.5 billion other adults looking for similar jobs, hence all the gatekeeping requirements. I guess it's good because it means corporations have access to the actual best fits, but it sure doesn't feel good.

Sometimes it's used as a preliminary culling measure. 'Work experience' is the easiest and safest way to cut down the number of applicants.

Don't remind me. I wasted so much time applying for jobs only to get immediately kicked out because I had no experience. They didn't even write it as a requirement, I was supposed to know it I guess. I finally found good work. How? Through connections. And I am doing a perfectly fine job without having prior experience. What-fucking-ever.