Harder maps is giving less tribute...why?

When I first got into maps I was regularly seeing 3-6K Tribute rewards from full clearing the map, a few even got to 7K. That was with using no Ritual Vessels.

I found an Inspired Learning for 20,790 at best T8's could have been lower. It discounts 1872 (It's on my spreadsheet) It's now down to 5,814 (8 defers) but the last time (9th one) it was offered I only had 2,770 from the full zone clear. With the 'fee' the cost is 2835 to defer, so I was short by 65. It was a T11 conqueror map that was part of the progression that I wouldn't even have been able to put a vessel into.

So, I have 1 shot left to get my reward, but if the tribute keeps coming in under 3K I'm really dreading the next time I cannot afford it. Is there anything I can do to ensure that I get 3K+ tribute from maps? I feel like the more Maven progression I've done the worse it's gotten. I thought if I pushed more I'd get more from them, but I feel like I shot myself in the foot.

I've even had a few of my 4th rituals that gave 0 Tribute. Is something wrong, or am I doing something wrong?

SSF FYI - So buying vessels to perma feed isn't an option, with how rare it pops up it wouldn't be too viable. Ran 30ish maps without seeing it once. My whole Saturday never saw it, it's been almost a week since I first found it offered.

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Matt_AsA_Hatter wrote:

I've even had a few of my 4th rituals that gave 0 Tribute. Is something wrong, or am I doing something wrong?

This is a known bug that is supposedly fixed in the patch we're told we're getting soon(TM).

As to the rest of your issue, yeah, Tribute amount might as well be completely random. You can run a blue T1 map with 3 Rituals and get 7k Tribute, or you can run a corrupted rare T15 with 4 Rituals and get 2.5k.

It's super dumb.

I think the Ritual league mechanic could be cool, but the number of problems it has has 100% ruined the league for me. I've actually stopped playing for a few days.

The deferral mechanic actually makes this problem worse. Because I'm worried that if I run rituals and get shitty Tribute amounts, I'll lose something awesome that I've deferred. As far as game design, I think either Deferral or Ritual Vessels would have been cool, but both together leads to a design space where players regularly feel like they were screwed out of rewards through no fault of their own.

This is compounded by the incredibly poor performance of the game during Ritual encounters.

Rituals kill me more often than any other mechanic, and it's not because they're difficult... it's because they cause lag & desync at tremendous rates.

Desync as a whole has been 500 times worse this league than at the end of Heist, and that's not even including during Ritual encounters.

It's very disappointing. After they fixed the "common client crash" in Heist, I thought the game was *finally* in a really good spot on PS4. And here, in the very next league, we're back to regular crashes, performance issues, etc.

It is 100% clear that Texture Streaming was not carefully enough tested, even on PC. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't tested on console *at all*.

Combine that with insufficient server capacity, and the fact that Rituals create higher mob density that nearly anything else in the game, and it's just a formula for disaster.

Agreed.

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Because I'm worried that if I run rituals and get shitty Tribute amounts, I'll lose something awesome that I've deferred.

This anxiety has 100% prevented me from playing more than a few times. The concept is great, but if I lose something when there is nothing else I could do why bother?

If they just worked how they 'fixed' Harvest to give us max 10 Deferred Items that never dropped off and we could just put in tribute as we acquired it that would be a huge QoL improvement.

I guess I'll be joining you for the next few days and taking a break to another game (sad noises) while I await the fix you mentioned. Thanks for the heads up that there may be hope for me still.

Anyone know if Rituals are tied to account or character? Like could I reroll and not have to worry, or am I going to see my deferred items while I'm in acts??

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Matt_AsA_Hatter wrote:

Anyone know if Rituals are tied to account or character? Like could I reroll and not have to worry, or am I going to see my deferred items while I'm in acts??

Deferred items are per-character.

You can safely run an alt. Until you defer something awesome with that character.

Also, while the Fourth Ritual bug is purportedly fixed in the next patch, there's still huge variability in Tribute.

PC has been on that patch for a while now.

Thanks again for the info.