Pojzon's Guide to "Cheap" HeadHunter Temporal Ice Shot Archer

DISCLIMER: Yes I know HH by itself is not a cheap item, but some builds require another HH level investment to work with it well and there are some ways to crop those investments to minimum or to optimize stuff cheaper/better.

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I've spent like a week flipping for a HH but when I finally had it I realized that the build I wanna play - Ice Shot Deadeye requires at least the next 80ex to be fully functioning.

I've tried to copy CuteDog's build but overall after some PoB magic I came to conclusion that it's not only utterly expensive but also pretty inefficient in what it does.

In this guide I'm gonna propose some solutions to crop out some "extra" investments required by DeadEye but not so much by Ascendant.

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ASCENDANT
- Pathfinder
- Occultist

Why ?

Faster, more survivability before stacking buffs, more movement speed, easier to gear for resists.

Pathfinder for: flask sustain / minor buffs to ele pen and movement speed / starting location

Occultist for: 10% cure effectiveness (this is very important) and +1 additional curse (we can drop +1 curse armor)


We need curse effectiveness to meet Solctice + self-curse Temporal Chains effectivenes treshhold.

With Solstice, temporal chains require 45% of curse effectiveness to get to maximum buff duration of stolen buffs.


Here is a good explanation of @Whissp about that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajqyaFQeZKU


Being an ascendant also allows us to easly get 20% curse effectivenes from the tree while traveling to huge life pool and jewel socket.

Curse on Hit (regular one) has 10% curse effectiveness. All thats left is annointing "Hex Master" notable for
temporal chains duration and last 5% we need.

Overall we get:

20% from a wheel next to scion
10% from curse on hit gem
10% from Occultist ascendency
5% from Hex Master

45% required for maximum duration of buffs we get.

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BOW:

I've seen people run Death's Opus for additional projectiles, but beside that the bow doesn't give many bonuses suitable for HH + Kaom's Roots boots.

For max efficiency Arborix is a better choice. Not only it has better dps but also gives us MOVEMENT SPEED. I hate it when the first few rare monsters dont have Quick mod or Haste aura. HH is the ultimate "GO FAST" item and mobility should be proritized over anything else.

Im Currently using this one:


Tip: Run Vorici to get 3x white +2red sockets and Corrupt it for 30% via beast craft.

HELM:



Fractal Thouths with ANY mana reservation reduction enchant: Hatred, Herald of Thunder or Herald of Ice. This HEAVELY reduces the costs becuase Temp-Chains Enchant Fractals cost 20-30ex.

CHEST:



Because 6L is cheap and it provides us with everything we need: more movement speed, cold res and even more dmg before buffs. It's also very cheap to corrupt it for somehting useful.

QUIVER:


With point-blank because we dont need ele pen from that part of the tree, we already got similar value from Pathfinder ascendency. Getting other points on tree is more benefitial.


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https://pastebin.com/9mcS2Wib

TIP: Run Smoke Mine as a movement skill in your setup, I F hate starting map with Kaoms slownes, Smoke mine helps with that and also after unlucky steak of buffs.

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IGN: PojzonAbyss
[3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766
[3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9
[2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired]
Last edited by eragon1111 on Jan 11, 2020, 10:19:39 PM
Last bumped on Apr 27, 2020, 4:39:06 PM
How'd you go about leveling this build? Any skill in particular or did you just level with ice shot? Not very experienced in leveling scions.
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Last edited by illmtk on Jan 8, 2020, 11:32:28 PM
Some things I would consider.
- conquerors potency jewel (4% curse effect) + 22% quality curse (11%) on hit = cheap 15% curse effect. Goes well if you have tempo chains enchant. Imo worth using that 1 jewel slot.
- easy way to get resists is bismuth flask, flasks last forever, 35% all base from a flask is good
- amulet upgrade overcharged node, caps you on all types of charges, pretty good for ramp builds like this one, don't need curses, blood rage, charges are automatically maxed out
- increased crit chance has low value for hh/inspired learning builds because it goes to 100% very fast from buffs
Last edited by aerial on Jan 10, 2020, 8:02:03 AM
Updated POB
IGN: PojzonAbyss
[3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766
[3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9
[2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired]
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aerial wrote:
Some things I would consider.
- conquerors potency jewel (4% curse effect) + 22% quality curse (11%) on hit = cheap 15% curse effect. Goes well if you have tempo chains enchant. Imo worth using that 1 jewel slot.
- easy way to get resists is bismuth flask, flasks last forever, 35% all base from a flask is good
- amulet upgrade overcharged node, caps you on all types of charges, pretty good for ramp builds like this one, don't need curses, blood rage, charges are automatically maxed out
- increased crit chance has low value for hh/inspired learning builds because it goes to 100% very fast from buffs


The point is to "NOT" use temporals chain enchant and other stuff coz its expensive and second its a waste of a slot when Ascendant gets to 45% so easly.

My setup is pretty much BIS (check latest PoB). There is really nothing you can upgrade to make the build better.

IGN: PojzonAbyss
[3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766
[3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9
[2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired]
How does this build feel after a week? Just got an HH off of Piety Malformation nemesis map. Pretty stoked.
going to try this!! leveling atm with toxic rain and quill rain!

I dont know what tree to follow xD
Wanted to try this instead of a deadeye but RIP TC builds.
Build works fine after nerfs if you spend some ex to get curse jewels and basically remove most damage from the tree to spec these in.



4 such jewels where you spec each point are enough to reach 169% effect (or sth like that (with the rest of the build)). Running voices would probabably make things easier and more efficient but I like the large elemental jewels very much and 4 curse jewels seem fine.



Since we have to spend so many points to get the curse effect the build is total trash without the headhunter buffs. I'm at 4k life and ~35 all res before flasks but still I haven't died since I got the feel of the build. It's all only relevant till the first couple rares obviously.

I also slapped in an inspired learning since I had trouble making this work earlier but I think it's irrelevant by now and I can save quite a few points by unspeccing the notables it needs.

Also used an intuitive leap to grab Charisma instead of using enlighten but you can even do both and add more levels to precision.

Disclaimer: it's just my second day running the build so I'm still testing in yellow maps (since yesterday I couldn't even do T1 :P) but did a few unjuiced T13s and it appears to be fine. EDIT: Run T13s all day and was fine. A few times it sucked at the beginning.

Gear








Tree
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Last edited by eirc on Apr 28, 2020, 8:19:38 PM

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